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[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Or you could just use SaidIt, like you're doing now.

[–]icebong[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Indeed, and saidit is the most free place i have found so far. But reddit also started as a ground for free speech, also we need to figure out the bot/troll situation a little better.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Sorry to argue - but Reddit did not start as a ground for free speech. Reddit - when it started - would run surveys, where we learned that most of us were in our early 20s and worked in IT. There was no discussion of "free speech" - in the political sense - as the site continued much of the bulletin board style discussions that existed in the 1980s and 90s. It was a news aggregator site. I could say more about it, and the corporatization, but my point regarding 'free speech' is that ALL social media and news aggregator sites interpret this to their own purposes, and it's become a talking point specifically for the 'radical right', who are traditionally the loudest and most aggressive in a network, and can use this free speech approach to their own benefit and to attack others (see Gab, Ruqqus, Parler, &c). Reddit and other sites will delete disinformation and misinformation, partially because much of it is pushed by highly organized, well-paid propaganda companies, shills and influencers, in order to manufacture consent (eg. re. Chomsky's 'Manufacturing Consent' and many other publications, including Lasch's 'The Culture of Narcissism', &c). For some of us on these websites our "free speech" is valued, and for for others, it isn't. Discourses on all social media and news aggregator websites are constructed. They're not purely organic developments of free speech.

[–]icebong[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes it did. Aaron Swartz(1986-2013), co-founder of Reddit who stood for free speech. Do not let Reddit erase him. They killed him in the end.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I agree he was killed. I'm still upset about it. He also made significant contributions to public access to information, which is possibly what got him killed. As for free speech, while he was briefly part of Reddit, I agree that he had that interest (as noted in his complaints about Condé Nast), but his interests were not necessarily shared with Steve and Alexis, or especially Condé Nast after their first year (hence Aaron was fired in Jan 2007).