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    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Because the pope said so. Checkmate Lutherantards

    [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Jesus saved us.

    Truth.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    All those people from like a million years ago till a few thousand years ago, plus the dudes who chose poorly, are all fucked.

    There is no way a benevolent man in the sky is going to just save fucking Christians rather than all those other people. Y'all probably be at the bottom of the list. Pick two of those up if you have time, be careful, they're violent.

    This story isn't all bad though, Islam didn't make the list at all.

    [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    nope, Jesus saved everyone. Thanks Jesus.

    the only people who aren't saved, are those who reject it. Very simple :D

    [–]AcceleratedWallops 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

    Holocaust denialism? Are you fucking kidding me Saidit?

    Guys, let's talk about chemtrails next

    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    well chemtrails are just water vapor, but they do exist unlike the holocaust

    [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    All contrails are chemicals and studies show that they cause cancer. Jet fuel is full of all kinds of chemicals so in this way all contrails ARE cehmtrails. Also, stratospheric aresol spraying is real.

    [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    add sulphur to the jet fuel and you get chemtrails.... very efficient cloud nucleation.

    [–]AwakenGoyimEcoSlaves 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    you are an idiot, bro. How stupid you would have to be to believe 6 million number when they were promoting that number long before the war

    [–]fuckupaddams 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

    This is sick considering I spent the night sobbing because I had images of babies' heads stuffed in trash bags in my mind after I had to put together a project about the experiment victims of the Holocaust - plenty of them children and babies. (Unrelated, the class was a Speech class so that assignment was completely out of fucking left field...)

    You guys do know that Roma and social outcasts ("undesirables") were also Holocaust victims right? And it's not just Big Jew pushing this??

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    This is sick considering I spent the night sobbing

    Seriously? You cried into a pillow all night long over.... whatever we're talking about in this thread?

    I don't think that helps anyone.

    Also when Tom Hanks said there is no crying about baseball, I think it applies here too. Like unless your grandma had to pleasure a whole squadron of ss troopers. Then you can cry.

    [–]fuckupaddams 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Sorry, baby heads in a garbage bag made me feel an emotion or two. Weird, I know.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    FWIW the garbage bag was invented in 1950.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That is strange. Reported to the department of reeducation.

    [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    you were lied to, and emotionally abused, and now you believe bullshit.

    Next you'll be claiming Anne Frank's diaries are not fiction, despite the author admitting it

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Most Roma were shot on sight or run out of the country, rather than taken to camps. Its easier to kill a Roma than to make them work.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    (Unrelated, the class was a Speech class so that assignment was completely out of fucking left field...)

    This is what totalitarianism actually looks like.

    [–]fuckupaddams 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It's just because my professor was Romanian.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Was he Romanian, or a Jew from Romania? Any section on Ceausescu?

    [–]asterias 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Wait till you learn about the actual facts of the Armenian Genocide, which Jews deny to aknowledge as they played a vital role in it.

    [–]asterias 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Let's take a look at genocide denialism:

    Holocaust of Naousa

    Armenian Genocide

    Holodomor

    And Jews played a vital role in all of them.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I'd rather talk about chemtrails instead....

    [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

    The holocaust museum director isn't claiming the holocaust didn't happen, just explaining the logic used by holocaust deniers.

    Going off the logic the holocaust museum director is using to explain the, "complete lack of physical evidence," you could literally make the arguement that there isn't physical evidence of anything actually happening in the past. We could just be living in an artificial setting and the entirety of history could just be an implanted memory.

    The article is taking a quote from him out of context to push a narrative.

    Touring the Dachau concentration camp was one of the most sombering experiences of my life.

    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (23 children)

    they did have jews working as slave labor there. A few hundred thousand died of lack of food and disease. That should have been enough but jews made up the 6 million killed after the fact to make it sound even worse.

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      [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

      holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com

      has images of primary sources that clearly show the post-war time line of the growth of the claimed number of deaths.

      [–]PRSanon 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Really wish that the site didn't have such a dumb name, but it does seem to be a pretty good resource. The topics are organized better since I last checked, remember having to suggest in a comment scrolling down a third of the way to get to the gas chamber and prussian blue stuff.

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        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

        There's an element here who thinks the Jews are behind everything. It's not a globally shared concern. Anyone who knows anything knows it's really the goddamned mexicans ;)

        [–]PRSanon 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        We're just a bunch of terrible, genocidal Nazis who want equal representation in our own governments :)

        There's a staggering overrepresentation of Jews, and our government tends to make poor decisions that are detrimental to us...

        [–]PRSanon 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

        It's much better that everyone believes in the truth. Historical events and how they are presented shape how people view the world. If people have incorrect historical information, then their political views won't result in the outcomes they expect.

        Judging truth is hard, debate is difficult, but ignorance is very harmful.

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          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

          I don't think i'm gonna be able to get you to agree with the vast majority of the world on the holocaust though, so what's the point?

          The vast majority of the world lives outside of the Jewish propaganda bubble and sees the Holocaust as a joke.

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            [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            you refuse to even look at evidence that your worldview is incorrect.

            You are debating in bad faith, unwilling to consider evidence

            So no, you'll not be able to convince anyone who is able to look at facts that your fairy tale is real

            [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            so you refuse to even LOOK at the evidence that answers your question. Gotcha,

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            common sense

            [–]C3P0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

            Hold on, /u/Popper. Before you answer Helianthus, please state what evidence there is for this claim:

            they did have jews working as slave labor there.

            [–]PRSanon 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Don't think that's much of an interesting question, it's fairly common knowledge. During a war, every bit of man power helps. After rounding up undesirables, they were put to work. "Arbeit macht frei" after all.

            I don't think any mainstream Holocaust historian or Holocaust revisionist will deny that.

            [–]C3P0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            it's fairly common knowledge

            At least you admit that there is no physical evidence that Jews worked there. It's common knowledge.

            [–]PRSanon 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labor_in_Nazi_concentration_camps

            Here, wikipedia can be shit on politically controversial subjects, but it's not really controversial because I've literally never heard of someone saying Jews didn't work at concentration camps. I see no reason to suggest that this is wrong. I am sure that production of the camps existed and were well documented by the Germans, along with photographs of the facilities by the allies.

            [–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I don't access wikipedia because of political bias, but if the article shows that mostly Jews worked in the camps then fine. I'll leave the rest of the debate up to the true conspiracy theorists.

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            common sense

            [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            germans are efficient. Work camps (because work sets you free) are very inefficient ways of mass murder.

            The SS were efficient, knocking off 6,000 at a go, executing people in ravines. With bullets. If the Reich really wanted to kill Jews in large numbers, a scaled up male chick mincer machine would be the go.

            https://www.kinderworld.org/videos/egg-industry/chick-shredding-secret-video-shows-how-chicks-are-shredded-alive/

            Anything that isn't automated, mechanical and merciless is kinda... un german

            [–]sanitarium 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Holocaust deniers..the stupidity never ends

            [–]AwakenGoyimEcoSlaves 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            stupid is believing 6 million jews were killed when that was would have been almost the entire jewish population of europe. GTFO NPC sheeple

            [–]cisheteroscum 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

            I like how both the revisionists and believers upvoted this as funny

            [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

            I'm no fan of the jews but to deny millions of them were murdered by the germans is just laughable and on the same scale that the lunar landings were faked. An idiot started to tell me once that the lunar landing was faked, I said "which one?" He looked at me real strange and I said "there were 6 lunar landings, didn't you know that?"

            [–]PRSanon 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

            There are some very interesting changes in the Holocaust story that were made over time.

            https://youtu.be/6as_PprWngQ

            Would definitely recommend this video, it basically jokes that main stream Holocaust historians are Holocaust deniers, revising death estimates down to 6 million for no good reason, ignoring witness testimony, and denying that many claimed death camps weren't death camps.

            It's quite funny, I think. Why should we believe in their authority when it's already been tainted with admittedly and obviously false claims?

            Really, we should be looking at the evidence, like where the bodies went, but it doesn't appear that we are. It's modern heresy to study the Holocaust in an unbiased fashion. Why is this so different from other giant, government led killings?

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

            Really, we should be looking at the evidence, like where the bodies went,

            A lot went into ovens and were ground up for fertilizer I expect, but what this all really started as was a complaint that the Jewish figures were inflated and that the homosexuals, Gypsies and others were left out of the count. We all know jews were killed en-mass, that's been their lot for 2000 years, and rightly so too.

            The camps are there, the ovens, you can go in and look for yourself, plus there is film archive of them being herded into trains with the jew-brand star on their cloths. I know they are playing on it but it's no fucking made up conspiracy. People are just upset that the US gives a lot of aid to the jews but that is no mystery either, the jews are a thorn in the side of the arab oil states and the US happy when they are strong because that unbalances the middle east.

            Look at the effort the US put into Kuwait in the first gulf war! They mounted a massive campaign, just to protect a tiny state that was in fact a part of Iraq territory before the British carved the place up. The second gulf war has cost over 12 Trillion now (upper estimate), that's huge compared to the 2 or 3 hundred billion they have given the jews to secure the western side of the arab states since 1945. https://www.csis.org/analysis/us-military-spending-cost-wars

            Imagine if they didn't have the jews there, they would no doubt have needed a major military expansion to keep a lid on things. No the jews are useful, a necessary evil for the western middle east security in my opinion. I'm not a fan of this expansionist military business, but what's the alternative? Having a bunch of camel riders/boy fuckers dictating petrol prices to us? $7 a gallon gas? Or Russia controlling the region where the last of the world's reserves are? China? No, it's the best of a bad bunch outcomes I believe. The jews are very good at keeping those Arabs at bay.

            You should see the docco of operation Opera, their 1981 attack on the Iraq nuclear reactor. That attack would not have been possible if the US hadn't given them squadrons of F-16 fighter bombers and you can bet the US never would have had the guts to do it. If the jews hadn't blow that facility up iraq would have had nuclear weapons and the gulf war to oust saddam and get the oil would never have been possible. Imagine nukes in the hands of radical arabs? No thanks.

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            and were ground up for fertilizer I expect

            That's too ridiculous for even the official Holocaust historians. This is not something they have claimed.

            that the homosexuals ... were left out of the count.

            Gays and trannies weren't persecuted by the Reich for being such. If any were killed, it was for being partisans or child-rapists.

            We all know jews were killed en-mass,

            No, we don't. That's the point.

            that's been their lot for 2000 years,

            Pure projection. Every Jewish holiday commemorates their slaughter of some other nation.

            The camps are there, the ovens, you can go in and look for yourself, plus there is film archive of them being herded into trains with the jew-brand star on their cloths.

            None of this points to any policy of extermination.

            Look at the effort the US put into Kuwait in the first gulf war!

            American foreign policy in the Middle East has been centered around one end: deposing secular Arab nationalist strongmen (Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad). All of which is in the service of maintaining Israeli dominance in the region, and which is led by Zionist Jewish thinktanks like PNAC.

            Having a bunch of camel riders/boy fuckers dictating petrol prices to us? $7 a gallon gas?

            America produces enough oil for itself, and then some. America didn't see a drop of Iraqi oil, but you know who did? Iraqi Kurds provide 75% of Israeli oil imports.

            And let's not forget America's continued friendship with Saudi Arabia (the source of jihadist ideology) and the other theocratic oil monarchies.

            Imagine nukes in the hands of radical arabs? No thanks.

            Israel and the West are the ones supporting "radical Arabs" (i.e. ISIS, Al Qaeda) to get rid of secular Arab nationalists. Israel built a hospital on Syria's border specifically to treat wounded Al Nusra fighters. Meanwhile, Jews threaten to nuke the entire world if things don't go their way:

            What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away--unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European Jews or Rwandans--have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?

            [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Who writes like this? Who dissects a post point for point just to argue every step of the way. Are you German? Don't answer that, you have been blocked

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Weak.

            [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            A million, mostly from typhus. That being said, 125,000 Jews fought for the reich. Many Jews, however, and work shy people, were executed.

            [–]derraleek 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            No shit, the holocaust is questioned bc it's bullshit. A war happened, the people who survived such war are lucky to be alive. Nobody questions any other genocide when war happens, that's the nature of war, to kill all enemies. Jews where an enemy, Hilter showing mercy as a vegan and animal lover was his downfall. Doesn't matter if they where jews or whatever, fact is, they where enemies. Perhaps he had a place in his heart to save jews, giving them a place to live, and the hasvarna agreement to displace them to a non war state. Odd how you think Hitler hated jews. Hitler did more for jews during war than he did hes own army.

            [–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            "the final solution" ?

            send the jews to Madagascar

            "tell a lie big enough and often enough and everyone will believe it"

            Goebels talking about Jewish propaganda

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I would highly recommend looking into the works of David Irving, who was once considered a world class historian before covering the wrong topics ended his career. The records of the various court cases in Canada where he was represented by the late Doug Christie regarding his "hate speech" and other offenses are excellent primary sources on the topic with expert testimony and the only case I am aware of where 'eye-witness' accounts were allowed to be cross-examined.

            There are several books written by him, as well as a few hundred copies of a book that is a compilation of these court records floating around.

            [–]soyboy77 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Reads like a Babylon Bee headline.

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              [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              God is spirit.

              [–]Crystalmenthol 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

              Even if you're a holocaust denier, can you at least admit that Germany's leader predicting the annihilation of the Jewish Race in Europe is a bit of a problem?

              [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Looking at the video now, the word he uses here is actually "Vernichtung" (to bring to nothing), but it has essentially the same meaning. He goes on to explain:

              I believe the earlier this problem is resolved, the better. For Europe cannot find peace before it has dealt properly with the Jewish question.

              It is possible that the necessity of resolving this problem sooner or later should bring about agreement in Europe, even between nations which otherwise might not have reconciled themselves as readily with one another. There is more than enough room for settlement on this earth. All we need to do is put an end to the prevailing assumption that the Dear Lord chose the Jewish people to be the beneficiaries of a certain percentage of the productive capacities of other peoples’ bodies and their labors. Either the Jews will have to adjust to constructive, respectable activities, such as other people are already engaged in, or, sooner or later, they will succumb to a crisis of yet inconceivable proportions.

              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

              In context it's clear that "Ausrottung" should be translated as "uprooting" i.e. removal, deportation.

              [–]Crystalmenthol 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

              OK, and that's not a bit of a problem?

              [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Ultimately it seems like the best option for all parties involved. The term "the final solution" originates with Theodor Herzl, and his hope was that once the Jews had their own state, they would learn to become a self-sufficient, upstanding, decent nation. He understood that parasitism was not sustainable - that as a nepotistic, paranoid, status-climbing minority, the Jews will inevitably wear out their welcome among any host population. And Hitler agreed. Zionism has no greater hero than Adolf Hitler. A little gratitude would be nice.