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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Bullshit. I always support my claims of bullshit.

So you're both immature and stubborn. Just using the word "incorrect" would be a world better — for your sake, of course: I don't lose anything from you embarrassing yourself.

Capitalist societies have the highest standard of living, the largest middle class, and the highest average income.

Of systems we've tried. Corporatism would be much better. Capitalism was the best system possible when it was first achieved — after decades of failure — but if you haven't noticed, it's been hundreds of years and not only has technology changed, but society along with it.

Offshoring and the flooding of migrants is responsible for the suppression of middle class wages, not capitalism.

Was it not the Capitalists who sent our jobs overseas? Was it not the Capitalists who closed-down our factories? Was it not the Capitalists who replaced American Workers with illegal immigrants? Was it not the Capitalists who betrayed America for China?

Capitalism is synonymous with offshoring and unchecked immigration! Capitalism is the pursue of material wealth above all else — above the Nation! In order to embrace true Nationalism, we must reject both Capitalism and Socialism, and devote ourselves to the betterment of our People!

there is nothing within capitalist societies that prevents strong borders and tariffs.

When your entire economic system is based around greed, don't be surprised when your brother sells you out to the foreigner.

The problem with low wages is globalization and you are unjustifiably blaming capitalism.

Capitalism is synonymous with Globalism. The Capitalists are the ones who want open borders and free trade! I'll refrain from repeating myself.

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Of systems we've tried.

Of systems we've proven.

When your entire economic system is based around greed,

The system doesn't create greed. It is ever present and will be equally present in your fantasy world if you are ever unfortunate enough to create it. Blaming capitalism for greed demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of human nature and a totally naive and incorrect expectation for greed to be curable with policies. Capitalism acknowledges greed and is built to work around it and utilize it. It does not create it. It is not responsible for greed.

Capitalism is synonymous with Globalism

The very fact that globalism inherently includes all countries of all political frameworks proves you wrong.

The solution to problems within capitalism is to fix those problems, not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

The reality is that anti capitalism is a cult that is brainwashed into every college student for the last 30 years. That there are numerous alternatives proposed simply masks the underlying reality that you are all driven by an emotional coupling of every grievance to the power structure (which you identify as the government/rich and powerful people/oligarchs).

The evidence for this is the fact that most of the proposed alternatives can easily be implemented within capitalist societies, and yet the people pushing them don't. They are simply making those alternative proposals to justify attacking capitalism. Most communists don't live in communes. Most socialists don't work at co-ops.

You can be a communist in America and live by your own standards. You can't be free on a communist country and own your own business.

That is ultimately the greatest proof that this is the greatest way to live.

If your alternative requires you to attack capitalism with bullshit then your alternative is not better. The same way every smartphone that came out after the iPhone was advertised as the "iPhone killer" and inadvertently proved that they were all in fact inferior.

Capitalism is simply about freedom, and freedom is everything.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Of systems we've proven.

Something has to be tried to be proven, and you have to convince people before doing such.

Blaming capitalism for greed demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of human nature

Allowing human nature to remained unchecked makes us mere animals. Greed must be suppressed, as with lust, envy, and the rest.

Capitalism acknowledges greed and is built to work around it and utilize it

Which is the problem. We shouldn't reward people for taking what is not theirs, but rather encourage them to work for their slice of the pie.

The very fact that globalism inherently includes all countries of all political frameworks proves you wrong.

It doesn't include Nationalist countries, only Capitalist and Socialist ones, which reject the Nation in favor of Materialism.

The solution to problems within capitalism is to fix those problems

That's what Corporatism is: solving the problems of Capitalism, while retaining its benefits. Capitalism wasn't an entirely new system: it built upon the previous systems of Feudalism and Mercantilism.

The reality is that anti capitalism is a cult that is brainwashed into every college student for the last 30 years.

That's Marxism, not Corporatism. You can't lump everything an inch to the left of you as "basically Communism". Marxists actually hate Corporatists more than they hate Capitalists — for these ideologies are both materialist in nature.

most of the proposed alternatives can easily be implemented within capitalist societies

If you change Capitalism, then it's no longer Capitalism.

You can't be free on a communist country and own your own business.

That's true: Communism, and Socialism, is a dictatorship of Labor — and always devolves into a singularity of government control and corruption.

If your alternative requires you to attack capitalism with bullshit then your alternative is not better.

If you criticize anything I like, then you're wrong!

The same way every smartphone that came out after the iPhone was advertised as the "iPhone killer" and inadvertently proved that they were all in fact inferior.

I'd have to disagree with that, as a life-long Android user. The degree to which Apple controls your phone is a deal-breaker for me. I don't want to have to jail-break my phone just to download a politically incorrect app.

Capitalism is simply about freedom, and freedom is everything.

Capitalism is about freedom — but unchecked freedom is just as bad as unchecked authority! I know you aren't an Anarchist, so you can agree that there are certain limits to one's freedoms.

Corporatism is simple about the Nation, and the Nation is everything. The Nation, One Body.

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We shouldn't reward people for taking what is not theirs, but rather encourage them to work for their slice of the pie.

That is what we do. Capitalism is not theft. That is the anti capitalism brainwashing talking.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you manipulate people into giving you their money — or charge exorbitant amounts for a resource over which you have a monopoly — then you did not rightfully require what is yours.