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[–]LesbianOutlaw 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Yea it sucks. The left went from protesting over income inequality to rioting over absolute scumbags getting killed by the police, usually for a justified reason — i.e. pulling a gun or a knife. Even in George Floyd’s case it turns out he died from OD’ing on fentanyl and not from asphyxiation.

[–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

yep. Why I stopped identifying as liberal: I observed that they were playing on our altruism and care to create a horror

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

If it just happened to scumbags I can see how it would be tolerable, but even that's not right. You've probably heard the saying two wrongs don't make a right. Those cops didn't know Floyd was ODing on fentanyl, and if they had, they still most certainly did the wrong thing. They aren't judge, jury, and executioner. Them doing wrong is still wrong despite the circumstances.

Even worse, it doesn't just happen to scumbags. You just almost never hear about it when it's not black people.

This was a local case, Goines was charged with murder and other crimes, and accused of a raft of misconduct, including having sex with a confidential informant, keeping loose drugs in his car, and lying about casework. A middle aged couple was gunned down in their home, their dog killed, it looks like Officer Goines didn't have time to plant the heroin in his squad car on the couple since the raid went sideways. Sounds like Goines might have been pulling this shit for the last twenty years, including murdering a guy in road roage that nothing happened over, and god knows how many innocent people are in jail or dead because of him.

The problem isn't that there's this one "bad apple," it's that he doesn't work in a vacuum. He couldn't have done this for decades with nobody knowing anything. The full saying is a bad apple spoils the bunch after all.

Or google police rape, it's disturbingly common. Imagine having to pay for a roadside ticket on your hands and knees, or with a gangbang. And when they get caught, pretty much nothing -- or very little -- happens to them. Or check out s/PoliceMisconduct, or on reddit r/bad_cop_no_donut.

BLM did nobody any favors, they took a real shot at possibly getting reform for an institution that badly needs it, and shat all over it. Had to make it only about race. Thing is, I suspect racism in policing isn't really a big problem. The cops do this stuff because they can, and they usually get away with it.

But nobody wins here. And we're just going to see it again. With the advent of social media and everyone having cell phones the cops just can't get away with business as usual. And they aren't interested in changing. Everything was all for nothing. It's sad.

[–]LesbianOutlaw 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

I am completely in agreement that the police need reforms. The problem is that BLM made it entirely about race, when the statistics don’t back that up. Two other egregious examples of police misconduct towards white people include Kelly Thomas and Daniel Shaver, but you never hear a peep out of the SJW crowd because white people getting killed by the police and the police getting away with it goes against the narrative they want to push.

BLM ruined any chance of meaningful police reform when they turned it into a race war. What should have happened is every race coming together in agreement that police brutality is a problem for everyone. They could have been successful in getting bipartisan support if they didn’t make it all about race.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What they really need is the community in control of the police rather than the police (or worse thugs: the government) controlling the community.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes

[–]redditbegay 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The people who set the standards for blm seem to have made it that way.

[–]BigFatRetard 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Always nice being able to Monday morning quarterback from behind a keyboard.

See how you act when you're dealing with a different methed up musclebrain with a criminal history every hour, and each one has their stupid act.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

^ Lamest sort of response you'll ever see on the internet, right here

[–]BigFatRetard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just because it's lame doesn't make it untrue.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just because your username is BigFatRetard doesn't mean that you are a big fat retard.

[–]questioningtw 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I absolutely disagree with this. The cop had no right acting how he did, and it scares the hell out of me that people white knight police brutality because the person being arrested was on drugs or had a record. The police aren't supposed to be killing people. That said,, there have been police brutality cases against people of all races and BLM really didn't do anyone any favors.

[–]LesbianOutlaw 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You didn't specify which case you are referring to. If you're referring to George Floyd, they didn't actually kill him. Of course it looked bad on the video with the cop having his knee on his neck but the autopsy found the cause of death was actually from a fentanyl overdose.

If you're referring to Jacob Blake, the cops shot at that moron for pulling out a knife.

Our cities burned for two absolute scumbags who didn't actually get murdered by the police. Meanwhile cases like Daniel Shaver don't get a peep. This is why BLM can't get anyone on their side. They react to cases that don't deserve reaction and ignore actual examples of police brutality because it doesn't fit their narrative. They're a black supremacist organization, not a police reform organization. Their masquerading as a police reform organization has killed any chance of us getting police reform.

[–]questioningtw 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

wait, I thought George Floyd did die from having the knee to his neck? Just because there was drugs in his system doesn't mean anything. i hated how with the Jacob Black one the left was trying to make it look like he was trying to break a fight up....I hate how our media is so sensationalized that you never know what to believe really.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

if you watch it the cop had his knee on the back of his shoulder not his neck. That can't feel good but I don't see why someone would die from that.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

How long would it have taken for him to get proper medical treatment if that arrest wasn't happening?

[–]cm18 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]mongre 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You guys do realize the political and ethical ideology of liberalism didn't change. The only thing that changed was corporate owned media decided to manipulate public opinion to suit their favorite tactic: Divide and Rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule

[–]questioningtw 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I feel the same. i feel like early liberals were smart and stratigic. For instance Rosa Parks wasn't the first woman to refuse to go to the back in the bus--it was a black teenager who was then recruited by MLK Jr....it was a strategic move to have Rosa Parks to it because she was an older, black church lady. This was actually a smart movie. The civil rights protesters were also smart enough to not riot and only wanted people that would help their cause in their cause. Of course though maybe this isn't the best example really; they were still hated at the time...but they did get most people on their side right?

i also hate this stupid shit: All work is slavery! No, it fucking isn't. STOP IT!

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

yeah MLK jr was killed by FBI because he actually was pretty smart with his tactics. Before that they had been trying to blackmail him, cuz he appaently cheated on his wife and shit but he didn't really care because he knew no one really would care about that. Usually they only kill someone when all else fails, that is what tells me MLK was pretty effective. At the end he was starting the poor people's campaign, which untied poor blacks and whites and was to march on washington.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

the rich control dems and want them to lose on purpose, because they don't want taxes raised on the rich or leftwing economic policies which help the poor and middle class.