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[–]rearden-steel 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

The purpose of socialism is irrelevant. It's effect in practice has always been, always will be, and can only be, violence and degradation.

[–]UnexpectedTransmissi 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Bingo

[–]Rationalmind 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Communism and socialism are different. The problem is that some people who identify as socialists are actually communists. So that compounds the problem.

[–]jamesK_3rd 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

They are analogous to HIV and AIDS. the ultimate state of those with HIV, will be do suffer from AIDS (medical prophylactic not withstanding).

Likewise, socialist and socialism are only a vector to arrive at the end state of communism, per Marx himself.

You might want to believe that Magic doesn't have HIV, just like you might not want to believe your beloved democratic socialism or whatever it's being referred to now, will not lead to statism and communism.

Both ideas are Very unintelligent

[–]Rationalmind 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Fair enough. I’ll concede the point. I think we need some socialist policies though. Like Medicare for All.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Biden said even if the Senate and Congress passes Medicare for All, he will veto it.

[–]Rationalmind 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Did he really? More reason not to vote for him.

[–]Intuit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The purpose of the continued beatings is to improve morale. Their effect is to degrade morale.