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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They tried that with kratom too but people raised a million bucks and lobbied to keep it legal federally. It also helps some people quit drinking, and with the current opioid hysteria it's all some of us have for pain.

Does GHB help with pain at all?

[–]hennaojichan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I didn't have any pain then but do now. It just makes you feel good or sleep depending on dosage. Also, it is a chemical that is naturally in your body. But it's not good for work as you tend to forget stuff. Calling something a "date rape drug" is so ridiculous because wine/liquor has been used for that since it was first made. Ironically, it can be had by prescription in the US, now years after it was denounced and made illegal, but it is super expensive. The irony is that it is very cheap to make. I used to make on my stove top and it took minutes. Kratom is illegal where I live and I would rather not screw around with the legal system here. Here, they do not want you to feel good. It is considered seditious. Pain is good. With GHB you have to measure the amount carefully to get relaxxxxation or sleep. A friend just grabbed my bottle, guzzled some and fell asleep on the spot. Rumors that it can be fatal are much exaggerated but never mix it with downers or pain killers, the ones that are mildly narcotic. Here the docs won't even give me ordinary codeine for my L6 back pain.

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Thanks for the info. Do you take anything for your back? I've had some luck with dextromethorphan, the cough medication, at therapeutic doses and not "robotripping." Ketamine is supposed to be even more effective but that's pricey here, also for no good reason since the stuff is also dirt cheap to make. Both are disassociatives and for some reason they seem to work on pain for some people. My issue is tolerance builds rapidly so it's maybe a week or two before it isn't helping. Still, it's something.

I'm trying for pain management in January. I have heard the horror stories but I gotta do something. There's a nuclear option though, if you're hurting they don't want to give you pain meds but if you say you're a heroin addict they'll do Buprenorphine. Shitty fucking thing to go on your record but if nothing else works....

Or there's TENs units and I make up a menthol spray that's stronger that what they sell. It's not fantastic but it helps me to at least try to do something for it. I have a short list of non narcotic pain meds too if you're interested. That's my plan A. Hopefully one of them works cause controlled meds are a real pain in the ass to deal with if you can even get them. I used to do that years ago but the $300 doctors visits and getting treated like a junky had me move to kratom, just after a few years it isn't really working like it used to.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cannabis oil would be your ticket. Wild lettuce is also a worthwhile painkiller.