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[–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Thank you for sharing.

So you're at 3/900 or a .003% rejection (99.996% success) rate. That's good for a group of ex-drunks, right?

[–]duckduckgo 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

AA really is not the program of honesty, it says that there is only one requirement to be a member, but in fact there are six requirements.. 1) desire to stop drinking. 2) get a big book. 3) get a sponsor. 4) work the steps. 5) get a higher power. 6) say that you are an alcoholic when speaking in meeting.

one bit of trivia about AA is regarding that issue where they say that there is only one requirement to be a member, which is complete bullshit today, lol.. it used to be that the only way that you could get banned from a meeting is if a "group conscience" meeting is held and they all agree that someone is a danger to the group and then they ban him or her. but today, they have changed the way that a group is formed. typically they will form a corporation of some sort and the corporation will rent or buy the building or space or whatever and then that corporation will "rent" individual meeting rooms to individual meetings.. this means that the corporation controls the patio and the lobby and the restrooms and the coffee pot, etc, and the corporation will directly post literature inside the building that says that we are NOT AA and that they have several other rules besides that you should have a desire to stop drinking and THEY CAN AND WILL CALL THE POLICE AND BAN YOU FOR ANY FKNG REASON THAT THEY WANT TO.

if some old timer doesnt like you and he wants to call the police and have you removed, he can.

the pre-amble that is read before every meeting that says that the only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking ONLY APPLIES TO THE MEETING ROOM SPECIFICALLY and not to the lobby or the front door or the restrooms, etc..

the corporation usually encourages the meetings to turn over 100% of the dollars in the donation baskets from the meetings directly to the corporation, which gives the corporation control of the money.

AA is now a private FOR PROFIT/NON PROFIT.

i think that i have gone over my three to five minutes.

AllahuAkbar.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Excellent until the last line.

[–]duckduckgo 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

just fyi, in my journeys thru life i found myself having taken my shahada(conversion to islam) and i prayed with wahabis for a few years and i have spent a little time with tablighi jamaat and i have spent a little time with a few very much terrorist classified groups.

in the end, when i stopped going to prayers i was told that i should be executed for not going to prayers.

AllahuAkbar is simply arabic for "god is greater or greatest", something like that..

alhamdullilah is arabic for "praise god"...

i wish that i knew the arabic phrase for "be aware of god".

one of the more interesting lessons that i learned from tablighi jamaat men was that "when islam controls an area, no muslim will ever be charged or convicted or jailed for killing a nonmuslim".

sharia law is coming, in fact it is already here and most nonmuslims are blinded and can not see this.

you dont know what i learned and so you dont know what i know.

[–]duckduckgo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

truth is, AA has a horrible success rate.. as a cult, it has a pretty good success rate.

AA actually convinces non-alcoholics that they are alcoholics, which is a bit odd..