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[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (37 children)

Snowden is a limited hangout - he revealed NOTHING new, and Glenn Greenwald just handed over all the documents to his Intercept billionaire publisher with less than 10% of the leaks published. Further, Snowden does not condemn Greenwald nor the Intercept for dragging their feet, AND Snowden won't criticize the "official" narrative of 9/11 much less discuss the NDAA 2012 allowing domestic propaganda and psyops in the USA.

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

Wow - Snowden really gets you going doesn't he ?

All I see from this guy is an intelligent man who did what he thought he needed to do, fled the country, and has to be super disappointed in what happened afterwards. I've read a ton of your comments and I'm not getting what your problem is with him.

Edit : I see now. You think he's a CIA asset. Did I get it right ?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

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Part 1- Rant on government PsyOps and Snowden among other crap


Before the Edward Snowdon "revelations," James Bamford, an intelligence asset, limited hangout pusher and book peddler "exposed" the NSA's future $2 billion data center which would be used to store:

"...all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital ‘pocket litter.’”

The source for this quote above by the Wire was:

...one unnamed former NSA official... [Fuck you, "he's" anonymous, this isn't a desensitization campaign /s.]

The source states:

“Everybody’s a target; everybody with communication is a target.”

...i.e. "revelations" before the Edward Snowden "revelations" reveal that everyone is a target. Later, I will analyze Bamford's curious connections.

https://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

Narratives like these are always utilized or authored by the intelligence agencies, broadcasted through various mediums to desensitize the public to accept 1984 style surveillance, which, fortunately for them, the people willingly accepted by purchasing their digital devices and using their convenient communication channels. That means you! Yeah you, the one reading this.

These methods can be classified under the Department of Defense's perception management scheme or managing perception through various means, tactics and operations, particularly through limited hangout campaigns.

In the realm of intelligence spooks and psychological operations, Sarah Bajc, the girlfriend of an alleged MH370 victim, believes that MH370 was "kidnapped and is still intact." Maybe she is right—as a conspiracy theoretician mind would want to believe. Maybe this plane was used as the other Malaysian airliner, redressed, that just so happened to fly off course and be "shot down by Russian Separatists" over Ukraine as the official sanctioned story purports—a pretext for various geopolitical agendas. Or maybe, just maybe, there is another reason built into the narrative; a reason not unlike Benghazi mom Pat Smith's cause, that is to acquire answers whilst propagandizing all the cut-and-paste government sanctioned narratives one could think of. Maybe that's it!

For a comparison, here is the broad Pat Smith pleading her case on corporate news, as she often does:

https://invidio.us/watch?v=NSjtdjS5Hoc

Smith says she lost her alleged son in the alleged Benghazi attacks on the convenient date of 9/11/2012.

She reminisced:

Ya know, it's funny, I just realized...

[13 years later? LMFAO.]

...this afternoon that my son, the one...

[The one?]

...that was killed in Benghazi...

[Remember to prepare scheme in perception management accordingly; Smith, "can you do that? Can you please just read the script we give you and not fuck up this time." Said an unnamed former intelligence official familiar with person's thinking.]

...was actually the one...

[Actually the one? But he wasn't but wait for what she says next...]

...that took over the airplanes when they were grounded, when the original 9/11 hit the towers.

[LMFAO! How convenient it is Mrs. Smith that all this is connected, it almost reminds me of Snowdon whose father did DoD backed investigative work on the 9/11 phantom planes which will be further detailed at a later time. Also, a date cannot hit anything; you screwed up your lines.]

What this larp mom is trying to say is that she realized that her "actual" son (the "one" who probably isn't her son and was probably not killed in Benghazi) was also the son who took over the grounded airplanes on 9/11/2001 (probably did not) when the drones hit the towers.

The convenient date of 9/11/2012 intermingled with 9/11/2001 can not be a coincidence.

Clearly she is trying to push the hijacker theory, which is of course a lie, as evidenced by Elias Davidsson and Graeme MacQueen.

This operation is what is called schema in DoD perception management tactics. Watching this interview, it is clear that she is lying and reading a script. And you'd think CNN wouldn't want this women to speak because of her strong distaste for Hillary Clinton but think again. Why? Because it is all theater meant to lead you on wild goose chases when the entire narrative is fabricated including the limited hangout conspiracies they push out. But once you understand all these interviews and events are psyops, then everything makes a lot more sense.

Basically, Smith is tasked with using the schema tactic in perception management, i.e. connecting past propaganda with present propaganda to form a historical lie forever. All you really need is a hobo or an ex. convict who has zero conscious and can do it for a buck. Just give them a script and let them act on TV. Chris Hurst played it well as well as the entire cast, and I mean the entirety of all witnesses and those "injured" at the PULSE Nightclub PsyOp, of whom all just so happened to be ex. convicts out on bond or D-film actors from Pedowood.

And that reminds me of Sarah Bajc who allegedly lost her boyfriend March 8th 2014 in the missing Malaysian phantom plane, who also on her twitter shills the Pulse Nightclub PsyOp. I guess conman and intelligence spooks really do show up in droves to pander to themselves and for those hard to find greenbacks.

So, in conclusion Pat Smith's alleged son who allegedly dies on 9/11/2012 because of lack of security, as Smith contends, was also the guy that just so happened to be in command of the grounded planes on 9/11/2001 for security reasons that Pat Smith only now realized this afternoon, 13 years later.

How people can not see through this stupid psyop and script is beyond me.

So, what does Sarah Bajc have to do with Snowdon?

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That's a massive cut n paste. I would be churlish not to read it.

the people willingly accepted by purchasing their digital devices..... That means you! Yeah you, the one reading this.

Don't presume to know my acceptance of the surveillance state or not. Hint : Some things you just can't do too much about.

For a comparison, here is the broad Pat Smith pleading her case on corporate news, as she often does: Smith says she lost her alleged son in the alleged Benghazi attacks

We've moved from Snowden to Benghazi ? And Pat has an "alleged" son ? I see what's going on here now.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Watch the videos. The narratives are all connected through schema. They all, each one of these agents, touch upon noble lies/myths. That illustrates to me that intelligence agencies have a knowledgable scope on how to perpetuate historical myths forever and how to control all sides.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This reiteration and perpetual doubling down on fake history is a perfect example of how the exaggerations, myths, and lies of the Holocaust prevail so much - always in sooooo many movies and TV shows. Another example is the idea that the US Civil War was to free slaves - it certainly wasn't.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

" Or maybe, just maybe, there is another reason built into the narrative; a reason not unlike Benghazi mom Pat Smith's cause, that is to acquire answers whilst propagandizing all the cut-and-paste government sanctioned narratives one could think of. Maybe that's it! "

On a completely different note, this is essentially the inverse of what my unfinished Bittersweet Seeds story aims to do - counter-propaganda that touches on all the evil things our government and media are doing and planning for us. Weaving all these narratives together and concisely for a screenplay is trickier than writing a lengthy book that few will read.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Would you mind writing up a definition for "schema" that you or I could post on https://WikiSpooks.com/w/index.php?search=schema

Down the road I intend to make a whole WikiSpooks glossary thing for esoteric terms used by government, deep state, and spy craft, like the second from bottom "Truther Glossary": https://infogalactic.com/info/Template:Trutherism

That's also why I created /s/Terminology, to promote awareness about such terms.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

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Part 2


Firstly, Sarah Bajc is in all probability a CIA asset, who curiously referenced a known CIA asset Valerie Plame and NSA asset Snowden in the article referenced below.

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/new-twist-in-mh370-search-points-to-giant-cover-up-say-family-members

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame

For references on the economic toll the MH370 psychological operation (PsyOp) caused consider that Australians spent half a million dollars a day looking for this plane, I guess they just had to borrow more money for their dying economy. A PsyOp will at least keep the debt afloat.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/economics/imf-warns-of-90bn-debt-rescue/story-e6frg926-1226879353647#

http://www.afr.com/p/national/imf_says_budget_fall_fastest_of_nreHL5ZcDI84gjokyEAp6H

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-10/hockey-warns-budget-cuts-will-be-widely-spread/5380136

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fm/2014/01/pdf/fm1401.pdf

http://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2014/jun/02/australia-soft-landing-could-be-bumpier

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/slow-retailing-not-down-confidence-064709287.html

The secrecy surrounding Bajc's allegedly dead boyfriend Phillip Wood, does not mean or prove that he and his fiancé are "crisis actors" though there is a high probability and they probably are.

Nevertheless, the facts point to his status as a tech-security agent for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).

https://earthlinggb.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/1395952528000-xxx-sarah-bajc.jpg

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2014/05/29/new-twist-in-mh370-search-points-to-giant-cover-up-say-family-members/678025

In many ways, the romantic link between Wood and Bajc as tech-security experts was similar to the relationship between CIA counter-proliferation agent Valerie Plame, who Bajc referenced and Ambaassador Joe Wilson. By no odd coincidence, the opponent of both brainy couples was the same: Israel along with its Likud aligned neoconservative operatives in the Pentagon. In Valerie's case, knowing her intelligence connections with the CIA and Mossad, she had recently posted a tweet that argued that all American Jews were responsible for the middle-eastern wars. The agenda? That of a counter-proliferation tactic of which Valerie is tasked with operating. That is to anger the entirety of Jews and further give the neoconservatives leverage to criticize anyone who even utters a word about their malfeasance and warcrimes of which they hide behind Jewishness. Do you see it? A double-edged sword; a word game they are playing us with! Valerie's counter-proliferation campaign would also, conveniently, aid in the Zionist cause by instilling fear in the Jew of a future pogrom thus persuading them to emigrate to Israel. Classic!

Philip Wood, Bajc's alleged boyfriend, worked for IBM and Sarah Bajc is a member of the American-Israel Chamber of Commerce (AICC) as of the 2005-06 year. Classic!

Bajc was managing director at Telecom (USA) software systems testing, inc., and Hagit Ashkenazi at TI Telecom and Business Director of Microsoft China.

http://archive.is/boe5A

https://pa.linkedin.com/in/sbajc

https://www.zoominfo.com/p/Hagit-Ashkenazi/999223192

Hagit Ashkenazi Azrieli Center is located at 26 Harukmin St., Holon, Tel Aviv, Israel. Its parent company is Sapiens International Corporation, a publicly traded company, headquartered in Israel.

Sapiens founder is Tsvi Misinai. A renown Israeli author who writes, paraphrasing:

Then, the establishment of modern Israel by world Jewry (having transpired to the detriment of the Palestinians) transformed the topic of Hebrew origin into a blemish of liability, ultimately becoming the object of outright hostility.

He contends that todays Palestinians are, ironically, overwhelmingly the descendants of Jews and other forced converts to Islam.

Misinai and his following thus deny any existence of the Palestinian people as separate to Israel's ethnostate or the Jewish people. He defines the Palestinian people as an utter fabrication.

Wherever then one looks, whatever one may be researching, it appears, the issue always circles back to Israel and the so-called "Palestinian question." Misinai plays a deceiving semantic game that would force Palestinians to assimilate with Israeli Jews into Israel via a one state solution without obtaining any political rights. Because, according to Misinai, the Palestinians have no national identity and are thus not developed enough to claim land as their own, they must then obtain, through what he terms so-called "modernism" of territorial claims, a national identity, that of Israeli—solution that would completely obliterate what little left would exist of the Palestinian people if a one state solution was achieved on Misinai's terms.

Misinai surmises that because Palestinians refuse this integration into a Jewish ethnostate, because, according to him, nearly all Palestinians were formerly Jews many hundreds of years ago, that this is what prevents their liberation and preserves their enslavement within an occupation by a false Arab identity. That they truly need to embrace Jewishness and the Israel ethnostate because historically they were Jewish is preposterous.

In short, he purports that they most embrace Jewishness and serve in the IDF to become citizens, if not, they will be deemed enemies.

If Palestinians possess historical rights to Israel it would not be on Misinai's terms let alone the terms of a Jewish ethnostate that imprisons Palestinians on longer sentences without due process for petty crimes than if an Israeli Jew was to murder a Palestinian. Misinai fails to realize that Israel was never a Jewish state in antiquity.

This "one state" integrates Israel proper with the West Bank and Gaza Strip as one territorial unit, while the "one people" consists of both groups being bound and re-defined as one united Israeli-Hebrew nation. In a cloak-and-dagger way this parallels the Likud's information war against a real 'one state solution' where Palestinians have full political autonomy or even a two state solution giving Palestinians full rights.

Hence, the ethnic ideology of revisionist Zionism which is a fairly new concept and was not a notable principle in Orthodox Judaism, except for biblical zealots who used a former ideology not unlike political zionism to plunder and pillage the land of their enemies for Jewish gain, now want to cleanse the Palestinian people of their identity to justify their integration into Israel. Only then, according to Misinai, can they receive full political benefits.

Classic!

The erasure of the Palestinian people is all the more dispicable when you take into account that the Jewish ethnostate disregards Palestinian Christians or even Jewish converts to Cheistianity.

Take for instance, Vanunu:

Eileen Fleming, a civilian journalist interviewed Vanunu in 2005 and 2006 In June 2005 Vanunu told me:

“My human rights have been denied me because I am a Christian. When I was on trial, I was treated just like a Palestinian: no human rights at all, and cruel and unusual punishment, all because I told the truth. The government spread slander about me, that I was a homosexual, that I hated Jews, that I wanted fame and money. What I did was sacrifice my life for the truth. In prison, I really began to feel like Jesus and Paul. When Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple, it was like me in Dimona, exposing the Israelis’ dirty secrets. I felt like Paul, being thrown in prison for speaking the truth.

“In Israel, a life sentence is twenty-five years. Even murderers go free after seventeen. They imposed the same restrictions on me that Palestinians receive: no human rights at all; no phone; no visitors, except family, and only through an iron grill; no vacation; no holidays; and no gifts.

“Even murderers get out for vacations! I was locked up for eighteen years and still cannot go on vacation; I cannot leave, and that is all I am asking for, just to leave here. For eighteen years in prison, they even attempted to control my thoughts on paper. I would write exactly what I wanted and they would censor words like kidnapped and atomic bomb. They would show me how they chopped up my letters, but I continued to write exactly what I wanted. They held my body, but never my spirit or mind.”-“KEEP HOPE ALIVE” page 118


A rabbi who praised Misanai's book wrote:

...one's origins influence his views and these influence over the generations his origins. It turns out that some method of a minimal merger of the two, with a strong emphasis on the mental and idological ingredient in order to determine if one belongs to the Jewish brotherhood that according to the Halakha is the base for the right to live in the Holy Land.

Meaning, if you belong to the "Jewish Brotherhood," details of which he never states, then you have the right to live in the ethno-state.

...and another:

The solution to this endless fighting is to reunite the Palestinians with the Jews their brothers. [...] They must also serve in the Israel defense forces.

That last bit is quite ironic and hilarious. Nevertheless, Misinai owns the parent company of Hagit Ashkenazi that Sarah Bajc manages. She spends so much time being on the boards of so many organizations that it's any wonder she has time to do real work. Bajc also served for three years on the Advisory Board for the US Government Technology Counsel.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Are there any good documentaries (or short solid articles) about the Likudniks/Likuds, their history, ideology, distinctions, opponents, etc? Seems like there should be. I feel like I don't know enough about them specifically. Being a taboo topic it's not prevalent much and Adam Green doesn't get into it much, though Joseph Atwill and Tim Kelly do at times.

This is a wide stray from Snowden.

Crazy that murderers get vacations from prison.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It is a wide stray, but it was more context concerning just how far PsyOp's can go. I had to give examples of agents.

There was a few taken off youtube.

Maybe search archive.org; I have some saved. I'll look them up and link them to you. Most of what I know comes from books, and there are many good books.

I'm sure there are documentaries on the origins on the Irgun and Lehi. The BBC made one, but whitewashed their terror acts.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

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Part 3 - MuckRacker Rants


On one up to date website it says she enjoys sports, music and spending time with her husband and three children.

She has all the hallmarks of an undercover CIA operative. Her home in Georgia was valued at almost $700,000 a few years ago. That kind of financial status is a far cry from her own description of herself as being a "backpacker". The articles surrounding her appear to be a mishmash of emotional drivel. Arousing all the mundane tasks of a laboring Christian or in other biographies, a warm-hearted western backpacker. As if the writers were given a checklist to checkoff from higher ups.

In nearly all psychological operations where assets are used to push limited hangouts and manage perception, these assets describe themselves as “christians” and happen to be Americans.

In a blog referenced here called 'earthinggb' and quoted until further notice, we read:

Meanwhile, Philip is described thus:

In a prepared statement to the media, the Wood family described Philip Wood as "incredibly generous, creative and intelligent.”

"Phil cared about people, his family, and above all, Christ,” they said in the statement. “Though our hearts are hurting, we know so many families around the world are affected just as much as us by this terrible tragedy. We ask for your prayers, not only for ourselves, but for all involved during this difficult time.”

Also, ask yourself why all corporate media agencies are allowing Bajc to speak her mind, ask yourself too, why they give Snowdon a platform? Fox, the BBC, CNN, ABC news, etc. Are we really to believe that Bajc made it past the media censors? They have a seven second delay and could have easily cutout Bajc's references to a grand cover-up that everyone has eaten up. It is almost as if they wanted these questions aired.

We know the corporate media has lied to us and covered-up 9/11 and has been complicit in the biggest false flag crimes of the past century. In this context, it seems reasonable to conclude that Bajc is a player in intelligence theater.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1zNy-5ESos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zVor7e8Jw0

In the former BBC video link above:

Bajc states:

"Oops! That’s the wrong place.”

Then;

"It’s just like a magician playing tricks on the audience."

Then;

"That must be incredibly difficult for you emotionally?”

...and watch our Sarah – can she put on the teary act all of a sudden? No. That would just be a little too “prompted” and obvious and the question has thrown her a bit of a curve ball.

"Ah..it..it..it’s frustrating!”

Frustrating? Not “Yes it is….” as she let’s by a little smile as if her real knowledge of her lack of a need to be emotionally affected has dawned on her and she let’s her guard slip.

Watch Danica Weeks (as she speaks about that wonderful, heart-wrenching story – perfect drama) hold onto her prop (her wedding ring) displaying it to the world.

...“amazing…amazing” she says – I was a father like she describes and it never made me amazing. He’s ex army (notice she then trips over her words just after this as if she thought “damn it, I never meant to say that”) but while there is the squeaky, croaky voice and the pained expression and sniffs, there is not a single tear. Eyes as dry as a kangaroo on a barbie on a Brisbane midsummer’s day.

Add all of this to the two South African girls’s story about sharing the cockpit with the co-pilot 2 years ago and the fact that that is now a proven lie and add the innumerable “leads” and “leaked information” given by a score of “unnamed sources” which then go dead but do the job of confusing the entire picture, i.e. perception management. Add the photos of the “stolen passports Iranians” with the same legs, and you have the typical CIA-Mossad PsyOp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1gdPjarz4g

Look at their placards in the video thumbnail above. A good number of them all, obviously, having been made/designed by a single source. This is managed. Think about any large protest in the UK (or anywhere) where it has been honestly grassroots. There are very few I admit but there have been some. They tend not to have a “brand design” of placard or flags or whatever. The Trade Union managed protests and “official type” protests do however. These people protesting the Malaysian embassy in Beijing have been put together by a controlling element. No doubt about it. There is a whole lot more as you know but, with all of it, it is quite clear that this entire event is another “Sandy Hook”. It is stage managed from start to finish. These people can snigger at fooling so many but sorry, it ain’t working on me. It’s another “9/11” while now we’re being told they may never find the wreckage and there may never be an answer. The PERFECT place for them to say the plane went down is where they say it did and that is for their purpose. Just like Bin Laden and his “watery grave”.

End Quote

https://earthlinggb.wordpress.com/2014/04/02/mh370-left-behind/

Of course, Bajc believes the authorities (Malaysian) are lying. To note, Malaysian authorities have been quite "anti-Semitic" as the narratives goes, against Israel and Zionism.

If she talks about anything but those Indian Ocean islands it takes the attention away from it or maybe the entire event is a fabrication from start to the eventual finish. With only one American adult on the passenger manifest she is essentially the mouthpiece for America's involvement in the case.

So, what appears now evident is that Sarah Bajc is either the most selfish "mourner" I have ever seen or on a lot of hallucinogens, and I am far from alone in this opinion. She seems to be loving the spotlight and has disregarded the "grief timeline" as all agents do. Never have I seen a "grieving" person so in love with TV's media attention. She calls her man a companion or partner, never using anything with heart. She never said once she loved him, never seemed to cry for him, and only at first brought up the fact of his children that did love him.

According to one civilian journalist, he writes:

Been around a lot of major tragedies as part of my line of work, and I know we all grieve differently, but never seen someone like her. She always goes straight to "I" and "me." I'm from NY and knew many first responders of 9-11-2001. No victims' family member has ever acted like her. No first responders that were there act like her. [EXCEPT FOR INTELLIGENCE SPOOK ALICE HOAGLAND and her gay Rugby playing son Mark Bingham.] After the many FD and first responder memorials I just attended the other day I felt a strong sense of anger towards this woman after seeing her most recent "TV Time..."

And we must remember, "Wood's" hilarious text message posted on 4chan, of all places, that Bajc claimed wasn't Phil who sent it. How would she know? Would she not at least want the American government to investigate it? But, no, she just accepted what the American government said when they said that the text message was not from her husband. Sort of like how Alice Hoagland propagandized the official government conspiracy theory narrative the day of 9/11 after her son allegedly died on Flight 93. She too skipped the grief timeline and decided instead to conduct numerous interviews displaying duping delight and stating:

I trust them [Department of Defense and State Department] implicitly.

Not only did Bajc accept, straight away, what the American government said, she started telling people online, who thought that the text message was from Phil, that the message was not from her husband, and even if the text message was a fabrication from the very beginning (which it probably was), it certainly gives Bajc away. I know that if I had a missing relative, and a message came through claiming to be that missing relative, I'd be really looking into it and no way would I say it is a fake message straight away.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/27/sarah-bacj-malaysia-airlines-missing-partner-philip-wood-texas/6961903/

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

limited hangouts

I have noticed that when technical terms like this are used, and the audience (me, and others) have no idea what they mean, and then they keep getting used, the story becomes less believable.

What I'm getting from context is a "limited hangout" is an intelligence agency revealing some, unimportant, details to the public. This is to make the public think that's the whole story. And I guess Snowden is one - okay.

What was always obvious to me was that Snowden was going to be wrong about some pieces of his story. Whatever he knew, it wasn't the complete picture. There's probably more going on than we all heard about, powerpoints and all the rest notwithstanding. None of that detracts from the critical message he tried to push out.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Your definition is close, but I wouldn't say the details are "unimportant". Just the other day I defined it as, "_ A limited hangout is someone who tells part of the ugly truth, enough to make you stop asking questions despite the fact that there is MUCH more to be revealed._"

ie: "I confess I raped my sister." And they take him to jail for a bit, meanwhile he has 14 undiscovered corpses in his basement.

"Limited hangout" is hardly a rare nor technical term, though it is primarily used in government, media, deepstate and spycraft. A search will reveal much quickly:
https://SaidIt.net/search?q=limited+hangout
https://DuckDuckGo.com/?q=limited+hangout
https://WikiSpooks.com/wiki/Limited_hangout
https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

If you want to understand the levers of power and manipulation you'll need to learn their lingo. I don't see how a story becomes unbelievable because an (easily looked up) unknown term is repeatedly used, if anything, to me it would seem they know more about it and the terminology than I do.

If you come up with other curious terms research them and feel free to post what you discover in /s/Terminology, or ask, me or /u/Jesus or anyone, to draft up a clarification definition and/or post there.

I agree with your last paragraph too, in that the message was critical, though I don't know if Snowden was wrong about anything. More importantly is how this message was pushed out. It was a sneaky political theater psyop to have people believe the evil spying government let one slip away to reveal how they spy on us. No one in the government has the balls to just admit it - because that individual or group would be demonized and the spying could potentially be "shut down" (they would never actually close it).

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A limited hangout is someone who tells part of the ugly truth, enough to make you stop asking questions despite the fact that there is MUCH more to be revealed._"

Precisely. I'm not saying Snowden is useless.

But he clearly is using perception management in many corporate news interviews.

And I cannot get myself by the fact rhat he had free reign on corporate news.

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"I confess I raped my sister." And they take him to jail for a bit, meanwhile he has 14 undiscovered corpses in his basement.

Okay. I'm not aware of what the corpses are when it comes to Snowden, all I've heard about is the rape. And I'm sure the corpses are there, to stretch the analogy, but it might not be 14 it might be less. It's probably an accurate term.

Still, I'm just suggesting that it's a really weird phrase. Neither one of us is a CIA employee.

More importantly is how this message was pushed out. It was a sneaky political theater psyop to have people believe the evil spying government let one slip away to reveal how they spy on us.

It's not necessary to invoke any conspiracy to explain what happened. Snowden was a bright guy who pulled all the right strings to get his message out. The public didn't care, the dumb bastards. Congress didn't fight the battle, the dumb schmucks. The three letter agencies all fought to keep the program because that's how life works. The president sided with the intelligence agencies, probably not seeing the damage he was doing.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No, Snowden did not rape nor murder that I'm aware of. That was just an extreme example of a hypothetical limited hangout in two short sentences.

Assange was accused of rape but it really wasn't even close (long story), but that's what they claim they're holding him for. That whole thing is ridiculous "justice" and another limited hangout.

Neither one of us is a CIA employee.

I know I'm not, but I could be lying. You could be too. Though generally this assumption is pretty safe to jump to. An employee is one thing, but their reach extends farther to assets, confidential informants, sources, etc. Also Mossad and other agencies are just as bad.

Nixon used "limited hangout". I agree, it is an odd phrase.

It's not necessary to invoke any conspiracy to explain what happened.

It's naïve not to. Most of the world is naïve as fuck, and that's why there's a 1% who exploit everyone else.

The president sided with the intelligence agencies

The presidents are always selected by the deep state. You're beyond naïve if you think Trump and Biden are the best America has to offer. I could find more righteous and more intelligent homeless people that would make better leaders.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

/u/Leo_Littlebook /u/JasonCarswell

Part 4 - More crap about da' PsyOp crap


Bajc says:

"From all the Malaysian people I’ve talked to, with some connection to the military, believe this was a Malaysian military operation of some sort".

And there it is!

Earthlinggd concludes:

The whole event of MH370 however: What a narrative! It’ll make a great blockbuster movie in a few years. I am now of a mind that there are two possible scenarios: 1. The flight never existed and 2. Diego Garcia (but not “Philip Wood sticking a phone up his ass. THAT, to me is pure disinfo perhaps to use as a “hook” to say “People that suggest DG are crazy”). This “independent journalist, “Jim Stone” is total disinfo in my view. One thing: I had never heard of him until now and another, he’s proffering this total crap.

In conclusion: It is bonkers.

https://earthlinggb.wordpress.com/2014/04/02/mh370-left-behind/

fuck James Bamford


  • Intelligence spook, NSA backed limited hangout, fails 9/11 litmus test.

fuck Snowden


  • DoD backed, limited "desensitization " hangout agent.

Does the Pulitzer Prize go to persons who are genuinely exposing the incorporated political-economic system? No. Is Snowden's behavior suspicious? Let us find out.

In a simple overview, this is how counterintelligence limited hangouts work. They, intelligence agencies, use myriad alternative media assets to spin narratives to control dissent and perception. That is the psychological operation.

One such suspected counterintelligence narrative to research is the exposure of the Counter Intelligence Program (COINTELPRO):

FBI never solved the burglary resulting in the exposure of its secret counterintelligence program COINTELPRO..."

Could it be that that exposure was a counterintelligence operation? That's for you to research.

https://archive.org/details/FBI-MEDBURG-COINTELPRO

The "holographic" Snowden "shills official 9/11 lie" interview—

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA9KaeyFEMc

Linked above is a limited hangout PsyOp interview reinforcing the government's official 9/11 lies...

Preserving the 'real hijackers' myth are we now Snowden? These were merely bait trails in the form of informants on missions used as patsies. Read Graeme MacQueen or Elias Davidsson for a detailed analysis on the hijacking myth. Snowden, nevertheless, thinks otherwise. Therefore, this interview alone illustrates where Snowden's loyalties lie; that of a controlled opposition engaging in a limited hangout operation.

What would the purpose be to have the intelligence asset Snowden placed on the world stage, and interviewed by corporate media; well here it is. It is his purpose to foster belief that 9/11 and all other terrorists acts and their official narratives are "real," authentic or are simply backlash in order to instill more fear of a mythological enemy. Furthermore, Snowden claims the all too common "intelligence failure" canard; generally uttered from the mouths of limited hangout assets, a tactic that successfully diverts attention away from the fact that there was, during 9/11, and still is today, a criminal conspiracy to destroy a country with media complicity.

Ask yourself this: If Snowden was really blowing the whistle would he be given such a main stream platform by the major media corporations, knowing where their loyalties lie; in Operation Mockingbird land? No, he would not.

Real whistleblowers/dissidents/renegades are victims of two bullets to the head or murder-suicides or car accidents with no eyewitnesses.

"CNN dedicating one-third of every broadcast hour of airtime to the birth, life and miracles of Edward Snowden..." should raise some red flags.

So, when you observe Snowden glance down (to check his script) and say:

"exploit the national trauma"

—he swallows hard before he says:

"to justify programs..."

Understand Snowden could be one intelligence asset playing a role in a sea of other intelligence assets playing their roles.

https://t.co/MZkAL1dC4Y?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=KQLy012pNDs

We have learned that Snowden takes the threat of terrorism seriously, just not western state sponsored false flag terrorism; regurgitates the official story of the World Trade Center demolitions, cites the "set up to fail" 9/11 Commission, thusly perpetuating the cover-up, whilst blaming intelligence failures; that is the PSYOP.

He, with the oligarchy and their media pundits continue diverting attention away from the catalyzing and catastrophic "New Pearl Harbor" also known as 9/11.

And "when the US wants to accuse Russia North Korea or China of X Y or Z, even if these accusations might have a slither of truth; they roll out their limited hangout Snowden..."

http://t.co/YT2SaFfDFp?

"Snowden wants you to know the NSA was interested in key Chinese customers—Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan Kenya, Cuba..."

Ask yourself why someone who is trained in counterintelligence would want you to know this? For whatever it is worth, the oligarchy uses the limited hangout Snowden leaks to expand the government police-state surveillance matrix under the guise of cybersecurity..."

http://t.co/1ej9yZUIpv?

That is why this alleged insider might pretend to be a fugitive rebelling against the excesses of some oppressive dangerous government. It is a very well planned counterintelligence strategy.

...two weeks after the first leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden were published—Obama defended the NSA surveillance programs..."

(One purpose of a limited hangout operation is to defend the government programs detailed in the documents leaked by the intelligence asset, i.e. using faux whistleblowers to engage in limited hangout operations in order to foster support and defense for an amalgamation and/or centralization and/or universal subservience to said intelligence agencies.)

Look this up http://t.co/4b0ecsxkwZ?

Snowden was, or still covertly is, a:

  • CIA system admin

  • DIA counterintelligence trainer

  • Dell contractor for NSA

  • Booz Allen Hamilton analyst for NSA

(Booz Allen Hamilton paid Snowden a salary of $122K)

"...reason why Snowden hasn't leaked any docs. concerning Booz Allen Hamilton re: Booz is akin to why AQ/ISIS do not attack Israel—you don't bite the hand that feeds you..."

Snowden must have forgotten to copy the documents related to Zakheim and Booz Allen.

Certainly, 9/11 Truthers cannot annoy you as much as they annoy Assange, right Snowden?

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

" It is his purpose to foster belief that 9/11 and all other terrorists acts and their official narratives are "real," authentic or are simply backlash in order to instill more fear of a mythological enemy. Furthermore, Snowden claims the all too common "intelligence failure" canard; generally uttered from the mouths of limited hangout assets, a tactic that successfully diverts attention away from the fact that there was, during 9/11, and still is today, a criminal conspiracy to destroy a country with media complicity. "

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Snowden was, or still covertly is, a:

CIA system admin

DIA counterintelligence trainer

Dell contractor for NSA

Booz Allen Hamilton analyst for NSA

Someone as famous as him ? Seems unlikely. But you could be right.

Certainly, 9/11 Truthers cannot annoy you as much as they annoy Assange, right Snowden?

It's all part of the grand conspiracy then. I don't believe it one bit. I thought this was a thread about Snowden anyway.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It was a thread about Snowden, but I had to give context on just how big PsyOp's can be. As for Assange, the wikileaks database keyword lists Iran as the most mentioned, Netanyahu thanks Assange on twitter and Assange on video said that 9/11 truth seekers are annoying and that 9/11 truth is a false conspiracy, he even went so far as to say that we don't really need an investigation into 9/11.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Part 5

/u/Leo_Littlebook

/u/JasonCarswell


He also in one interview which the censored John Bravo has mentioned is that Snowden has a Tor sticker (red flag) on his laptop. Tor is a honeypot created by the DoD. Why would someone so adamant about protecting themselves from intelligence agencies promote a DoD backed browser?

According to a letter from Dr. Leslie Sachs:

From: "Dr Les Sachs" ><l.sachs[at]inbox.lt>

Subject: Swiss gov letter: No Snowden asylum, he's a CIA fraud

To: info[at]pandodaily.com

And I paraphrase this letter:

  • Increase the sense of terrorism/blackmail among governments;

  • Promote CIA-tied media;

  • Entrap genuine dissidents;

The latter would be all too common with Snowden's handler, Glenn Greenwald, and his intelligence backed Intercept project, a start up by First Look media where they ratted out genuine whistleblowers. This will be further detailed at another time.

As for this aforementioned Dr. Leslie Sachs, he too has shady connections, him being quite fond of Rupert Murdoch. Murdoch is a proud Likudnik promoter and Zionist who has many connections to the real 9/11 perpetrators. He is also friends with Arnon Milchan, an Israeli Zionist who proudly admits his assistance in stealing US nuclear triggers for Israeli intelligence. Milchan directed 'Medusa's Touch' which predicted planes being flown into skyscrapers in New York City, he then went unto produce JFK, directed by Oliver Stone (real name: Oliver Silverstein), which whitewashed Mossad involvement in the assassination of JFK. In the 90's, Milchan produced 'Fight Club,' which is filled with 9/11 predictive programming, such as the demolition scene of skyscrapers in NYC at the very end of the movie, or the bombing of a high rise building in a preceding scene or the use of the term "Ground Zero" stated numerous times in synchronicity to the failed bombing attempt on the World Trade Center in the film. In the late 90's, Milchan with help from Rupert Murdoch produced the 'Lone Gunman.' A film that accurately predicts the alleged hijacking of passenger planes which would be flown into the upper third of the Twin Towers.

As for Sachs, he believes that there is a CIA oriented shadow government that quarrels between people like Rupert Murdoch. Statements such as these:

But the fact is, the CIA's Guardian newspaper, has been pushed to attack Murdoch in Great Britain, as a punishment and warning in revenge for Murdoch's 'excessive' pro-populist news in America.

or...

Murdoch had been giving 'too much' of what US citizens want to hear, and the CIA and US ruling families wanted to give him a strong slap.

or...

Rupert Murdoch is on notice he will be destroyed if he does not back off from 'too much' support for US Constitutionalists.

See that you may question everyone and everything in truth of discovery. You might just discover a ginormous counterintelligence program that seeks to control, confuse, discredit, disengage, anger, and surveil legitimate dissenters.

Ask yourself, were the Snowden leaks supposed to trigger a revolt against the police-state-surveillance apparatus, did they? No, far from it. Instead, they enhanced the centralization and power of this apparatus.

In a subsidiary counterintelligence operation, anonymous social media users claimed that Snowden was assassinated by a drone strike in Hong kong. Many of these social media posts would feature hashtags praising Snowden as a renegade and cheerleader for truth and justice. The purpose of this deliberate false story was to further socially engineer persons into believing that Snowden truly was on the side of the people -- written in stone, implanted into the subconscious-- for lack of a better term.

http://t.co/DtJPfZj1n5?

What are some ways in which the oligarchy might utilize a limited hangout operation to fulfill an agenda? One such way is to broadcast that ISIS (Da'esh) learned from Snowden. Anyone accused of inspiring ISIS would certainly want to contend such a statement and yet Snowden is silent.

http://t.co/HzO86kTOH7?

These operation mockingbird like broadcasts are further substantiated in cryptic form by the overt shilling of public desensitization campaigns concerning surveillance programs.

"...records of phone numbers, call dates, times and durations would be retained by telecommunications companies..."

http://t.co/ESj2jaREF4?

Thus, the NSA will simply use the back doors they installed on all the telecommunications companies in order to analyze metadata in real time.

To followup on this broadcast, a clear PsyOp is propgandized to push the agenda that communications must be monitored for security reasons.

PSYOP—

"...imperative that we monitor the use of digital/social communications to combat ISIS' growing influence..."

https://t.co/joCkUUazHb?

[–]ManWithABanana 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Tor is a honeypot created by the DoD.

There's one I haven't heard. It's starting to sound like you're telling me nothing is what it seems.

Ah, now we're really getting to Snowden :

Ask yourself, were the Snowden leaks supposed to trigger a revolt against the police-state-surveillance apparatus, did they? No, far from it. Instead, they enhanced the centralization and power of this apparatus.

This is a spot on observation.

Were they supposed to trigger the revolt ? Yes, they were.

Did they ? No, far from it.

You forgot the why. Snowden underestimated how apathetic the American public is about things they don't understand. He underestimated Congress et al's ability to dismantle the bureaucracy and intelligence gathering apparatus.

The central problem is that government wants/needs these kind of tools for intelligence purposes. So the people involved create cock-and-bull stories about why it's all OK and then built the infrastructure. It succeeded well beyond anything I had ever imagined. And my congressmen, along with all the rest I assume, is presented with a difficult choice to make among hundreds of other competing priorities. They chose to blow the whole thing off with "reforms" that bureaucracies know don't matter and preserve the central purpose of the structure.

So today, we have to understand that officialdom, from the CIA to local law enforcement, will literally be able to read everything we put into the computer. And it's not what you're doing today, it's what you've written for your entire life. Along with every other digital scrap that gets attached like pictures, video, and spreadsheets. Does local law enforcement have that access today ? I'm not sure, but I'm also very sure that it's coming if not.

What are some ways in which the oligarchy might utilize a limited hangout operation to fulfill an agenda?

I don't know. I don't care.

Every bureacracy performs damage control when something happens to screw things up. So the NSA/CIA/etc did damage control. Why should I care ? I'm still aware everything on the 'net gets hoovered up and stored. And the three letter agencies want to continue to do it. They successfully rode out the storm and the average citizen now thinks none of it matters.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

And you fine with Snowden saysing:

Whistleblowrs should be kicked in the balls.

Or that;

He was scared when he got out of the car in, I believe, the Uk, because of muslims.

The guy's rhetoric seems more akin to a Booz Alan Hamilton hack, the company that the 9/11 perp Rabbi Dov Zackheim worked for, than a real whistleblower.

I invite you to search Ethan Serone's twitter posts on Snowden, he has thousands illustrating far more than what I can say here, that he is a limoted hangout, or even better, ChrisRulon's posts.

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The guy's rhetoric seems more akin to a Booz Alan Hamilton hack, the company that the 9/11 perp Rabbi Dov Zackheim worked for, than a real whistleblower.

I thought that was the company he DID work for. But I'm not crazy about that kind of rhetoric, that's true.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, he did. But some of Snowden's rhetoric seems very much what a neocon would say, and he is hush, hush when it comes to them or the DoD backed blowback theory which he conveniently pushes.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There's one I haven't heard.

You should look into it. It's legit compromised. TOR is anything but secure.

Snowden underestimated how apathetic the American public is about things they don't understand.

The Hanlon's razor excuse, "failing in stupidity", but as always "naturally" accidentally favouring the ruling class.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Part 6

/u/Leo_Littlebook /u/JasonCarswell


So, we have congress pretending to end the retention of mass bulk data, thusly, assuring the utilization of backdoors via telecommunication companies who have had a long history of doing business with intelligence agencies.

And in a predictable move, Omidyar's errand boy to dupe, Glenn Greenwald, handler of Snowden, tricks his followers with the propaganda that these powers will be reduced.

So, Booz Allen limited hangout Snowden cheers on Rand Paul, thus promoting the filibuster psychological operation.

In 2015, congress wanted you to believe a filibuster would prevent the NSA from sending malware to targets. As we know, congress is incorporated and most of the policies and legislation passed or debated about would be disregarded by the surveillance apparatus anyway.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/05/senates-excuses-reauthorizing-section-215-and-why-theyre-wrong

"This has been a very important part of our effort to defend the homeland since 9/11." —Sen. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell

There’s one problem: there’s no evidence to support that.

The President's Review Group on Signals Intelligence stated:

"Our review suggests that the information contributed to terrorist investigations by the use of section 215 telephony meta-data was not essential to preventing attacks."

The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board stated:

Based on the information provided to the Board, including classified briefings and documentation, we have not identified a single instance involving a threat to the United States in which the program made a concrete difference in the outcome of a counterterrorism investigation. Moreover, we are aware of no instance in which the program directly contributed to the discovery of a previously unknown terrorist plot or the disruption of a terrorist attack.

Mitch McConnell, Richard Burr, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, James Clapper, Tom Cotton and Mike Pompeo, among others ardently supported the reauthorization of section 215.

Filibustering is akin to voting. In that like Rand Paul, we rely on a single action, however prolonged in believing that said action will fix the issues of our time, the people never once consider that maybe voting or filibustering, say the Patriot Act, does not really contravene with the corporation of the UNITED STATES. Concerning the processes of the corporation, no matter the obstructions they allow, no matter whether you think your vote will somehow stick it to the man, you are still encouraging the very system to flourish.

"large amounts of metadata gives the government access to even more revealing portraits of individuals/groups..."

https://t.co/Kk7NNqTpV4?amp=1

And reading between these lines, someone, some entity, wants Americans to believe that the NSA will stop routing internet traffic through their data centers and that Snowden is a hero.

Yet, it is quite clear that a persons' digital internet footprint is exponentially larger than their telecommunications footprint. Just think about all those images, messages, emails, posts, tweets, likes, searches, histories, purchases, accounts, memberships, subscriptions etc.

"...but it is virtually impossible to make a call on normal phones without generating an Amdocs record of it..."

http://t.co/K4lkyk3nLb?amp=1

Substantiated by this PsyOp:

"...certain suspects in 9/11 may have managed to stay ahead of them by knowing who and when investigators are calling on the telephone..."

Think about the Israeli art students who lived in close proximity to the 9/11 alleged hijackers, think about Amdocs, think about paper patsies!

"...virtually all call records and billing in the USA are done for the phone companies by Amdocs—an Israeli-based private telecom company..."

"NSA issued a report (TS/SCI) warning that records of calls in the United States were getting into foreign hands—in Israel—in particular..."

"...widespread data mining techniques and algorithms—combining both the properties of the customer and properties of the specific behavior..."

"...USA government officials are worried about the possibility that Amdocs data could get into the wrong hands—particularly organized crime..."

Here one can observe that Israeli owned private companies are being blamed to counter information which exposes domestic spying operations. If the UNITED STATES corporation & company is truly concerned about Israeli intelligence, they would cut ties with sharing personal information with them. The fact is that the Israeli intelligence agencies work hand-in-hand with American intelligence agencies and telecommunication companies, many fronted by dual-Israeli citizens.

Snowden was a teenager when Carl Cameron authored his 2001 report on the Israeli art student spy ring but give Snowden credit for telling us the NSA has been collecting metadata since 9/11 ignoring Amdocs who was collecting metadata before 9/11 and who shared intelligence with US intelligence agencies. So, rest be assured, the NSA has a back door into Amdocs or Amdocs has a back door into the NSA, either way bulk collection of metadata continues.

And we must take into account that nowadays all these wireless broadband satellite telecom data software service companies rely more and more upon cloud-based platforms, which can easily be monitored. And remember too that the FREEDOM Act is a diversion. It does not end bulk collection of metadata it just rewrites the rules of the game for the NSA.

What has Snowden leaked about Amdocs, Comverse, ICTS, Kroll, TriData, MITRE, Ptech, the Dancing Israelis and the Israeli art student spy ring? Nothing. He has leaked nothing, he only perpetuated the 9/11 official government approved conspiracy theory -- a limited hangout, who has stated numerous times that the classified information will remain classified indefinitely. Greenwald sought it to that end and now makes star appearances on Fox News, the same corporate news company which covered-up 9/11.

And when you finally understand that 9/11 was a false flag operation orchestrated by a 5th column within the UNITED STATES corporation, specifically the executive branch, riddled with Zionist neoconservatives as well as pro-Likudnik factions within US intelligence agencies and private companies who were contracted to coordinate the event, you will realize that the Islamaphoiba after 2001 was a desired goal and that the data mining to combat the faux existential threat of domestic radical Islamic jihadis -- terrorists hiding around every corner -- was concocted to erect an unconstitutional surveillance system that allegedly permeates every facet of our world today.

As for the controlled opposition media pundits, they too perpetuate the memes and terms such as beheading, homegrown, lone wolf, terrorist sympathizer, ISIS, AQAP Islamists, etc., a clear perception management campaign perpetuated by ZeroHedge, the Drudge Report, etc.

But of course this scare could be exaggerated concerning the belief that the government watches everything you do. No. The government, intelligence agencies, limited hangout agents deliberately scared Americans in order to sell you software to 'protect' yourself. What better way to open up a security niche market worth billions! Snowden knows a lot about that scheme for he shilled for various Department of Defense backed encrypted apps. €¥¥€£¥€£££€€!

Likewise, it is also clear that people like eBay and First Look Media founder Pierre Omidyar, Glenn Greenwald's mentor as well as Glenn Greenwald himself, handler of Snowden are no different than Glenn Beck and Alex Jones in pushing an agenda to sell you crap.

https://mobile.twitter.com/the_intercept/status/601799151609851904

"...thanks to the Snowden PSYOP the Western spies and tech giants continue to meet in secrecy to discuss how to save the surveillance-state..."

^ ^ ^ That is the PsyOp.

Are we to believe that because of Snowden, because of filibustering the NSA is going to close all its back doors into the telecom-metadata-surveillance matrix? That's exactly what they want you to believe.

Ask yourself this: why must Snowden "screen everything before releasing it to journalists" such as Greenwald and his billionaire boss Omidyar, whilst they keep classified documents classified. And how nice, oh how nice indeed of you ‪Snowden‬ to provide the Alphabet Agencies with a list of "dissidents" aka followers on your blue labeled Twitter account.

Yes, the very "whistleblower" who leaks secret government files and lives at an "undisclosed location" managed to secure a verified account?

I have plenty more to post.

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

So, we have congress pretending to end the retention of mass bulk data, thusly, assuring the utilization of backdoors via telecommunication companies who have had a long history of doing business with intelligence agencies.

Yup. Depressing as all get out.

In 2015, congress wanted you to believe a filibuster would prevent the NSA from sending malware to targets.

You have to remember that Congress is made up of individual actors. It's not some kind of monolith.

As we know, congress is incorporated

Yeah I know. THEY pull their strings. I've heard this before.

most of the policies and legislation passed or debated about would be disregarded by the surveillance apparatus anyway.

I think this is much more complicated than this blithe assertion. Beliefs like the above actually help the surveillance state immensely.

And when you finally understand that 9/11 was a false flag operation orchestrated by a 5th column within the UNITED STATES corporation, specifically the executive branch, riddled with Zionist neoconservatives as well as pro-Likudnik factions within US intelligence agencies and private companies who were contracted to coordinate the event, you will realize that the Islamaphoiba after 2001 was a desired goal and that the data mining to combat the faux existential threat of domestic radical Islamic jihadis -- terrorists hiding around every corner -- was concocted to erect an unconstitutional surveillance system that allegedly permeates every facet of our world today.

The simpler explanation is usually the correct one. 9/11 happened because of Islamic extremists. CIA/NSA/Cops want to look at your digital evidence. These things can exist independently.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You have to remember that Congress is made up of individual actors. It's not some kind of monolith.

Congress members, in the house and senate are members of a corporation, ie., the US Federal Corporation, whoch is written in legal code and are traded on Wallstreet. Why do you think Biden said to a gun owner a few weeks ago on video that he "doesn't serve him," you'd think he would at least lie and say he served the people, but this isn't the case when you consider that they, presidents, are chartered as EO's of a federal corporation. Look up TheCaptainSlappy videos for more info on this. Slappy shows with proof in 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th century documents, documents nobody cares to read, certainly not truth Inc., nor the faux conspiracy theoretician crowd, that the US is a corporation and always was. It was a protection racket built to protect the founders assets, that the poor produced. Later on, it had some semblence of representation for the people, ie., certain founders like Jefferson, who critiqued the constitutional conventions, found that the Bill of Rights had to be added for the protection of the farmer and common person, but todays corporatists, their lackey corporate lawyers; politicians, Zionists in congress, bankers, and thr BAR association (corporation) all but threw out the constitution.

EO's of the US corporation do not care about the constitution and never will. Like Bush said:

It's just a piece of paper.

And for this belief, prominent in the upper wealthy classes and industrialist sphere we now have lovely permanent public debt, that is mortgaged to unborn generations. We can thank the Jew Hamilton, the Jew Warburg, thr Jew Seligman, who convinced Warburh to push for income tax, the Jew Schiff, the Jew Rothschild whose lackey was Belmont (a fake name; and a Jew) and the Jews Legman, Guggenheim and Loeb.

Again, this isn't a blame on every Jew. Context is key here. The anti-farmer belief, that remained prominemt in neoliberal, Industrial and political circles allowed foreign bankers to travel to the US and take over the US through permanent public debt.

The simpler explanation is usually the correct one. 9/11 happened because of Islamic extremists. CIA/NSA/Cops want to look at your digital evidence. These things can exist independently.

Usually. Not always. The offical sanctioned government narrative, if we were to take into account all the laws of physics broken and the utter impossibilities and laughable pre-written back stories, I think you would come to the conclusion that 9/11 was an inteliigence agency job. Italian intelligence has admited many times that 9/11 was a Mossad/5th column Likudnik/neoconservative job.

My evidence? I invite you to read and watch:

  • Any of David Chandlers videos on WTC7.

  • Read the Fairbanks study on WTC7

  • Read any of the books and the technical data published by architects and engineers for 9/11 truth.

  • Read Graeme MacQueen's book on the Anthrax attacks which were part and parcel of the 9/11 false flag.

  • Read John MacDonald's Civic investigation book on the Israeli families that boasted about 9/11 and made money off of it after the fact.

  • Read the hundreds of FBI documents that investigated the "dancing Israelis" and the hundreds of Israelis caught on 9/11 who celebrated and boasted about 9/11 before and after the fact. The document refers to 9/11 as the "Twin Tower Bombing."

  • Search: newsfocus.org; scroll down on that website and click the article referring to PNAC. That article illustrates the neocons involved.

  • Search Christopher Bollyn, and above all read David Ray Griffin's books.


9/11 happened because of Islamic extremists.

If you read these books and research the evidence, for years, as I have done, you might come to an entirely different conclusion. That, like what Italian intelligence has said for years, that 9/11 was a professional job, not done by patsy hijackers who had mossad handlers in Hollywood, Florida but by a tightly knit group of Likudnik aligned Zionists/neocons and MIC aligned politicians that sought to profit off of and use the pretext for geopolitical agendas.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

TheCaptainSlappy videos

Are painful to watch. You need a better reliable source that doesn't hurt.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Listen, they might be painful, but you are not suppose to watch them, but read the pictures and documents. He does the shit editing as a joke because he tried hard before to teach people and nobody cared so he says, if someone really wants to know the truth they have to pause the video and read. If they cannot do this for the shitty editing reasons, then they don't want the truth. He says, they have to try for it.

Again, all the truth is in charter documents and law books before the 19th century. His older videos did not have the dumb editing. What Cappy basically proves is that the US is a corporation and congress is a corporation and the US and Freemasonic charter corporations are ALL ABOUT MONEY FLOW and protection rackets.

Life for all of them is GAME THEORY. It is that simple. That's why complaining about your rights won't solve a damn thing.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

IMO, he'd be better off/more effective adding all that information to a nice archive-ish site of his own or better: WikiSpooks - and maybe bundling it all into torrents to be shared (perhaps with monthly or seasonal updates). The he could make his videos to promote his info-exposure-release-updates - or IMO more effectively just promote it on SaidIt and save his video-making time for original content like contextual breakdowns, video essays, opinions, parodies, etc.

" Life for all of them is GAME THEORY. "

Truth. For the most of rest of us on Earth it's still a matter of scraping by for life and death.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I would send you all the law books and documents that were sent in a comment to me by Slappy but I check today and YouTube freaking deleted the comment for good. Why delete the comment? It seems that is too close to truth. Basically, EVERY COUNTRY is a LLC.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nothing is simple.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry, I had to give some examples on how PsyOps work in the context of agents.

[–]ManWithABanana 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I appreciate the effort, read it all, and replied where possible.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I can't speak to whether he's CIA, NSA, or whatever (there are secret agencies we've never heard of). Whether he's an agent, double agent, triple agent, an asset, confidential informant, useful idiot, spy, or whatever - the fact is his story is bullshit.

Read my other comments here. I like his manner. I don't like his neck mole. I like that he (with the "generosity" of the MSM) has made people aware of the overreach and surveillance capitalism issues. I don't like that everyone is blasé about it all and no change manifested. I like truth. I don't like lies, psyops, and social engineering (that serve the deep state and ruling class agendas).