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[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman 18 insightful - 8 fun18 insightful - 7 fun19 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

You're right, they didn't 'just' do it, they did it three years ago.

[–]Jesus-Christ 13 insightful - 11 fun13 insightful - 10 fun14 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 12 insightful - 11 fun12 insightful - 10 fun13 insightful - 11 fun -  (9 children)

OOGA-BOOGA

OOGA-BOOGA!

[–]magnora7 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Can you not drag discussion down the pyramid of debate so frequently please? https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

[–]wrongthink 8 insightful - 8 fun8 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think he was trying to debate.

[–]bald-janitor 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Now he is gone, he was a good fren

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yay for public warnings! So this is a new thing you're doing?

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They're something I do most of the time. Not that many people get banned from saidit...

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[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's some impressive Photoshop work.

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please don't be too jealous!

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 7 insightful - 12 fun7 insightful - 11 fun8 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

Was di matter cracka? Di dem dey Jews say to us we be running dis bitch now.

Signed: Mambutu Sesesekke,

Senior newsroom editor.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 9 fun8 insightful - 8 fun9 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

Taxpayer money well spent

[–]magnora7 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (8 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin

It's usually people's 2nd or 3rd language, that's why it's simplified.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

I think it's just most people don't know they write like this too, like most Americans don't know about scots.

[–]catoboros 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

I came here to mention Scottish speakers of English. George Bernard Shaw once quipped that the United States and Great Britain were divided by a common language. The same applies to regional dialects, not to mention Seth Efrica, Straya, and Nuzilnd.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

English is a simplified language. It is a mideival patios.

The Simplification of English - Stage 2, The Viking Settlers

The article doesn't list any specifics, however one basic example is the english language has no genitave cases, and virtually all other European languages do.
English nouns for objects are genderless.

This is only one small example of many linguistic simplifications existing within modern English.

Reinessance scholars were ashamed of this reality and latinized the language. The word people was previously peple, etc.

Prior to WW2 French was the language of sophisticated westerners.

Unfortunately, the public education system and propaganda system has simplified the historical perspective of many Americans.

This is the probable explanation behind this post receiving so many upvotes.

[–]wuzizname 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

As a English speaker who learned French serious fuck gendered nouns. You need at least double prepositions and pronouns to make it work. I don’t know if German is the same but the Latin languages are a mess with them.

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree it's a hassle to learn the additional syntax structure of other languages. The message can be reasonably conveyed without the additional complexity.

However, some of the play-on meanings of phrases is lost when a language is stripped down to the basics. This can affect poetry, or comedy, etc.

My point is it's easy to make fun of other patois if you don't understand the nature of language.

English is the Ebonics of European languages.

No doubt the audience reading the paper in question will be fluent in at least two (probably +3) languages.

The meme is low brow comedy.

[–]C3P0 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

genitive - relating to or denoting a case of nouns and pronouns (and words in grammatical agreement with them) indicating possession or close association.

English uses apostrophes for possession. For example, "my sister's" or "an elephant's ear."

You probably mean that English nouns have no gender, and many grammarians would agree. However, it is not exactly true. Consider the following gendered nouns and special cases in english:

  • buck, deer
  • gander, geese
  • rooster, hen
  • hotrods are sometimes referred to as "she"
  • beautiful is rarely used to describe masculine things
  • handsome is rarely used to describe feminine things

...and probably a thousand other examples.

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The details you mentioned are Interesting, but the miss the main point.

genitive - relating to or denoting a case of nouns and pronouns (and words in grammatical agreement with them) indicating possession or close association.

There are many applications of a genitive case. It's a broad term and IIRC English has only 3.

English is a Germanic language, so it's a useful as a sister reference language.

Here's a better example of what is missing from our patios.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genitive_case.
(Scroll down to the German portion)

Articles

The genitive singular definite article for masculine and neuter nouns is des, while the feminine and plural definite article is der. The indefinite articles are eines for masculine and neuter nouns, and einer for feminine and plural nouns (although the bare form cannot be used in the plural, it manifests in keiner, meiner, etc.).

Nouns

Singular masculine and neuter nouns of the strong declension in the genitive case are marked with -(e)s. Generally, one-syllable nouns favour the -es ending, and it is obligatory with nouns ending with a sibilant such as s or z. >Otherwise, a simple -s ending is usual.

Feminine and plural nouns remain uninflected:

  • des Beitrags (of the contribution) – masculine
  • der Blume (of the flower) – feminine
  • des Landes (of the country) – neuter
  • der Bäume (of the trees) – plural

Singular masculine nouns (and one neuter noun) of the weak declension are marked with an -(e)n (or rarely -(e)ns) ending in the genitive case:

  • des Raben (of the raven) – masculine
  • des Herzens (of the heart) – neuter

The list goes on and on for adjectives, etc.

The article also has a section for English.

Old English had a genitive case, which has left its mark in modern English in the form of the possessive ending 's (now sometimes referred to as the "Saxon genitive"), as well as possessive pronoun forms such as his, theirs, etc., and in certain words derived from adverbial genitives such as once and afterwards.

[–]sproketboy 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Your tax dollars at work.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yours too

[–]ISaidWhatISaid 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

OMG, ROTFLMAO!

[–]Wahwah 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Shudders It kinda validates the stereotype further.

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Pidgin languages and creoles are quite interesting. There are a lot of English-based pidgin languages, not just the one you see here. Since it lists "Nigeria" in the country tab, I assume this is the Nigerian English-based pidgin.

The English language itself is (hypothetically) a Creole (thus derived from a Pidgin) which developed as a middle ground between Old English and Old French. That's why we have so many French words, though many of them where adopted later on.

A few Wikipedia pages to read up on if interested:

List of English-based pidgins

English-based creole language

Middle English creole hypothesis

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

it's still there
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin
a story from today
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-53771761
it's like their version of USA Today, lol. No big words, just short, simple sentences.

[–]copenseethe 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If a person is capable of speaking/reading Pidgin English they (with a small bit of effort) are capable of understanding standard English. If they are living in an English speaking country they should make that effort. This is hilarious and also embarrassing for the target audience.

[–]VirgilGriff 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Look, Koko the gorilla has learned to type.

Or in Koko's language: "Big gorilla happy speak, gorilla happy computer"

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

😂

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I can't be upset. Pidgin is at minimum an effort to learn English, which is more than can be said sbout the majority of US-born folks with second languages. It looks like shit, but I recall reading texts from friends that were equally as legible. Plus the UK/BBC hasn't given a shit about the people that actually live there in ages.

[–]xigoi 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Isn't "pidgin" a general term for simple languages created by merging two different ones? I feel that using the word for a specific language is rather confusing.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I bet u/socks speak pidgin

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