I'm Asexual. I don't consider myself LGBT and really don't want to be involved with that community due the politics and highly-sexual nature of it.

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[–]SeasideLimbs 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

If I may, I'd add categories (d) people who, due to hormonal reasons, have an unusually low libido and stupidly decide to turn this simple, biological fact into an identity, and (e) people who identify as asexual for sexually-perverse reasons, which fall into two subcategories, (e1) people who are fetishistic in the psychopathological sense, meaning they require this fetish to function sexually and can no longer do so without it, and who no longer wish to engage in sex for that reason and instead engage in fetishistic acts exclusively, and (e2) people who have become addicted to porn to such a degree that they prefer masturbation to having sex. I've personally encountered people of all three types.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I would argue (e) and (e1-e2) fall into the range of (d) or (c) most of all. Masturbatory or porn addictions make sense among people who are themselves not very attractive and only attracted to highly attractive people. The "hormonal reasons" of proposed (d) fit into the health related and morbid obese reasons of (a) to me. I suppose it is a matter of definition. So perhaps (a) should be "health reasons" and (b) should be "mental reasons" with (c) being "stupid fuckers". Vague enough to encapsulate all perhaps?

In any event the reason for my skepticism you perhaps understand. Having been in a relationship with one, I've found myself exceptionally hostile to them as a concept. People who hide behind their traumas and problems who, instead of working through them with their partner, decide to reject said partner in favor of adopting an identity to hide behind. Instead of addressing a porn problem, or being honest about not being attracted, or working on their health. Maybe you can't offer me many answers if you are self aware, but my query relates to why such people are so cowardly as to run from the obvious? If you have someone who loves you, just wants to work with you, to give you time, why would you just reject that? Forgive the projection, but I do wish to receive some input on this matter.

[–]SeasideLimbs 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I would argue (e) and (e1-e2) fall into the range of (d) or (c) most of all. Masturbatory or porn addictions make sense among people who are themselves not very attractive and only attracted to highly attractive people.

Good point, you're right.

(d) fit into the health related and morbid obese reasons of (a) to me.

I didn't think about it that way. That would actually make a lot of sense, because obesity is actually proven to have a marked effect on hormonal levels. I'm unaware how exactly in the case of women, but I know for a fact that obesity in men can reduce testosterone levels.

So perhaps (a) should be "health reasons" and (b) should be "mental reasons" with (c) being "stupid fuckers". Vague enough to encapsulate all perhaps?

That would be another way of putting it! Really just a matter of definition, like you said.

Since I don't identify as asexual myself, I unfortunately can't answer your other questions. (I'm not the OP.) I'm someone who agrees with your skepticism though.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah. I had assumed you were in the same boat as OP so that I might glean some insights. Perhaps someone else will come along and also engage the conversation. We'll see.

[–]72ndGender 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Masturbatory or porn addictions make sense among people who are themselves not very attractive and only attracted to highly attractive people.

You beat me to it. These people would gladly have sex with an attractive person, but they aren't able to pull an attractive person because of their looks and/or personalities. They're essentially incels posing as volcels.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

3DPD, etc.

[–]72ndGender 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I learned a new meme. Thank you.