Would You Finally Like To Join The Rest Of The Civilized World?

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[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

It's never been about having to pay for it.

They never ask much less bitch about raising how much they spend on the military and their endless wars, nor the bailouts for the filthy rich.

They just want to deny everyone. "Health"care is very lucrative - that's why they never cure you and only try to make us all sick (yet able to be debt-slaves).

[–]72ndGender 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Eliminating the military completely would only cover less than a quarter of the cost of expanding medicare to everyone. Our taxes would have to go up dramatically to make it happen. Bailouts are a fraction of a percent of our budget, so that wouldn't help much either. It's just a ridiculously expensive program for a sickly, obese population like the US. And we are in enormous debt and deficit as it is.

The only way to make it work without bankrupting us is to enforce legal health requirements, like diet and exercise, banning smoking and drinking. Or add in massive fat taxes and vice taxes to cover the economic expense. That one actually might work fine...

Edit: so I did the rough math. The program would cost about $3t on the low end. Fast food, alcohol and tobacco sales combine to about $600b so a 500% tax on those things would completely cover the cost of the program. And likely reduce the future costs. Or start a revolution. One or the other.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know where you get your figures from. First minute Trump was in office he raised the military $80 Billion - enough to provide everyone healthcare and/or* college (not free but it is even and fair). He's since given the military MUCH more!

Yes half of everyone is stupider than average. Yes it seems everyone is fat. Why is everyone fat and stupid? The media dumbs us down with shit like the History Channel and the food is GMOs with unethical factory farming. The "health"care system is about having perpetual profitable problems not solutions. The "education" system is about creating life-long middle-class debt-slaves so burdened they won't have time to question, organize, and rise up against the establishment. The corporatocracy is to blame, not the cows nor the sheeple.

Fuck any legal health requirements pushed upon the oppressed people. Try fixing the corporatocracy and their social engineering psyops instead. Decentralize their power and offer alternatives and solutions and the people will migrate to them. Of course they'll never give up their profits, power, and full spectrum dominance. But the sheeple will go wherever they're led. Right now they're all buying into this scamdemic psyop bullshit.

Show your math with citations. (I actually don't care.)

 

*Depending who you ask it's "either" or "and". DuckDuckGo: 2017 Trump gave military enough to cover healthcare and college The first link supports me. I didn't go further. Don't trust the liar "fact checkers".

[–]72ndGender 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The cost of medicare for all, with different estimates and citations. $3t is a middle of the road figure:

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/how-much-will-medicare-all-cost

US defense budget for 2020 is $718b:

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/budget/2020

The defense budget isn't even close to covering the cost of universal healthcare in any of the estimates. As far as the spending on alcohol, tobacco, and fast food, I just searched "us spending on [insert item]" and grabbed the first figure I saw for a recent year. It wasn't meant to be a perfect figure, just an idea of how much we would need to tax those items to cover the cost of their effects on society. These taxes effectively fuck over the corporations who profit off of obesity and addiction, since sales would quickly plummet. Fuck 'em though.