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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I think your division between capitalism and consumerism is deeply mistaken.

Yes, capitalism is an economic system and consumerism is a socio-cultural phenomenon but it is a phenomenon caused and enabled by capitalism. The purpose of capitalism is through the private ownership of the means of production producing goods which can earn you a profit from trade. Profit is excess value. And what is purpose of profit? To gain more capital to use within exchange. Why? To get more goods, thus by definition consuming. And you want accumulate more capital from profit, allowing you to consume more for access to needed and better goods. And it is in the vested interest of a capitalist (by this I mean one seeking to accumulate capital and not in ideological sense) to gain this capital from other consumers through trade, thus he needs to market his goods to potential consumers and that is how the "culture" of consumerism is born. It is a self-fulfilling system of consumers consuming to allow other consumers to consume more. And there is nothing at the basic level wrong with this. We are all consumers. The consumption of goods is natural and exists in capitalism, socialism or any other economic system, although other systems have other methods of allocation (I'm not going to discuss them however) capitalism's method is the problem which many people recognise today.

Where capitalism makes consumerism extreme is that it is a system that naturally pushes want (you can call this greed if you want), thus you want more capital to consume more and to get this capital you need more profit. So, like I said you need to market to consumers, and you want many consumers of your goods and you'd ideally want them to also regularly consume from you. And thus from marketing, we have advertising, branding and other methods to spare awareness of your goods for trade, to create recognition of it and to make it appeal to consumer as something they should have. And that is how all the problems of consumerism arise.

note: I am including "services" as part of goods

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    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Bernie is a neo-liberal.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Not all Jews are subversive terrorists but the folks from Irgun and Haganah definitely were. It is important to recognize that because it is the cause of some problems. While you can't blame "the Jews", you can reasonably blame Israel and Larry Silverstein for playing a significant role in literally causing 9/11. Considering that, maybe some Jews do share fault in mismanaging our civilization. Not unreasonable to focus on from where I'm standing tbh

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Exactly, nobody is blaming all Jews for the woe's of the world.

    But certainly specific Jews had a hand in 9/11 if not the most prominent hand. That should provide us all the more reason to withhold any aid to Israel.

    [–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You are correct, consumerism is a big issue. Not just for America, but every person on the planet. It is possibly the largest issue facing our world, and destroying the environment. Though I would point out that it is being pushed by the globalist, many of which are backed by Israel, or hold duel citizenship. I even believe that many religious people with influence and power go out of their way to embody prophecies, by debasing those they deem lesser men, through corruption.

    At base however, it is the fault of American's for not upholding their core values and having not rejected outside influence. It is the fault of all those that lack empathy for their fellow citizens, and value money over the people they and their corporations, and their government bodies claim to serve. This may be a trap, but it's one are fellow Americans have led us into, and we can't leave it to them to get us out of it either.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Read the Talmud?

    [–]everythings 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    When almost everyone in politics has dual citizenship with Israel you can’t really say Americans have anything to do with their country.