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[–]magnora7 31 insightful - 6 fun31 insightful - 5 fun32 insightful - 6 fun -  (87 children)

Nice.

Just want to add that saidit's official version of the pyramid of debate has an extra level at the bottom: Advocating violence against individuals or groups.

https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

[–]aThievingStableboy 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (63 children)

gqeragawefsdcx

[–]xigoi 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (27 children)

We allow free speech. Just because these opinions are on the site, doesn't mean they're widely supported.

[–]aThievingStableboy 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

dfbva

[–]xigoi 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

Yes, it is contrary to the stated goals. Some people just can't be reasoned with. It's the same with Saidit antisemites as with Reddit SJWs, but with the difference that you won't get banned for disagreeing with them.

[–]aThievingStableboy 11 insightful - 9 fun11 insightful - 8 fun12 insightful - 9 fun -  (13 children)

asdrgawef

[–]RecordStory 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

Transgender people went to live their own lives peacefully and with the same rights all people deservd. Nazis want to kill all the jews. According to this site, they are the same.

[–]xigoi 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

That's not true. For one, this site doesn't have any official opinion, unlike Reddit. For two, many trans people are cool, but the SJW kind straight up hate cis people. (And they're not being denied any human rights, that's just an attempt at victimization.)

[–]RecordStory 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

You're full of shit and this website is full of Nazis. Just because you're stupid enough to buy into Anti Trans propaganda doesn't mean that's a reality. I can't stop you from being stupid but you can stop yourself.

[–]GConly 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Anti Trans propaganda

Calling a fact propaganda doesn't actually stop it being a fact.

Transwomen have the same violent and sex offending behaviour as other men.

Show me ANY data that proves otherwise.

I've been asking people for this routinely for the last year and all anyone has done is whine that the police oppress them

Not sure how police oppression leads to TIMs committing male levels of homicides and sex crimes tho.

You know, cuz they are men.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Just because you're stupid enough to buy into Anti Trans propaganda doesn't mean that's a reality. I can't stop you from being stupid but you can stop yourself.

Just because you're stupid enough to buy into delusions about gender, doesn't mean its a reality. I can't stop you from being stupid but you can stop yourself.

this website is full of Nazis.

I'd rather talk to so called Nazis over someone that thinks people with gender dysphoria have a right to their mental illness. At least these so called Nazis are authentic and come on, they come across as a hundred times more reasonable than anyone that wants to indulge a delusional ideology to keep a handful of people who are confused about their gender more comfortable.

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't known we had members of the National socialist German Workers Party here? I thought most of them died?

Call them bigots if you have.

[–]SomeFaggotFromReddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lolz at trans propaganda

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That’s a fair point. Even tho the nazis want to put me in an oven, I somehow find them less annoying than your average redditor.

NPC's are a hell of a thing. They are infuriating because they can't be reasoned with. At this point the mainstream Zeitgeist is starting to feel a hell of a lot like a religious cult. Is it low on the pyramid of debate to hope they have a Kool-Aid party?

For the record I have no issue being labeled a Nazi, but don't particularly want to stick you in an oven; I doubt you'd taste good.

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    [–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    No advocating violence. Last warning.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    He's done it more than twice already. Ban him. All he is here to do is shill. It's obvious. If he wants to post things and actually debate that's fine but he clearly isn't here for that reason.

    [–]Jesus 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    The top post doesn't say satanic Rabbi, it shows a rabbi speaking what he believes and practices. The top post is a book called this:

    "https://files.catbox.moe/1zgcgy.pdf

    It is largwly about Judaism and what Yeshua called the "synagouge of Satan" or those who pretend to be Jews but are not

    I don't agree with a lot of it. But it is critiquing Judaism and Jews, which means it is fine to post.

    [–]AllStr8SexIsRape 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    And it's a reason why goyism is racism and racism is incitement to violence.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Blocked for calling all non-Jews racist.

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      [–]xigoi 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

      Ah yes, the typical SJW narrative: anyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi. Nice try, nobody believes that here.

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        [–]magnora7 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

        Hi can you stop repeatedly dragging discussion down the pyramid of debate? Thanks.

        [–]GConly 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        You'll be stunned to know SJW opinions make up about 8% of the population.

        You are actually the minority.

        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        This website has you triggered beyond reason. Maybe it isn't for you.

        [–]AllStr8SexIsRape 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Then you allow criticism of all non-Jewish religions as well?

        [–]xigoi 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Of course. Criticize what you want.

        [–]Jesus 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

        Nazi ideology is what? Critiquing Judaism or Israel? Not all Jews are Semitic, all arabs are also semitic which means if any post on /r/Judaism or any other sub is what you call "anti-semitic", it most also be against all arabs including Palestinians.

        You are using a misnomer. Anti-Judaic is a better word to use. And guess what, you can be that on saidit or anti-muslim or neither.

        There's plenty of "expel all the muslims in America" users on here, which I find despicable. That being said I don't call for their censorship.

        [–]AllStr8SexIsRape 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        Anti-zionism is antisemitism and antisemitism is racism. Jews cannot be racist because:

        —Jews are people of color, and calling people of color racist is psychological projection by racist whites.

        —Racism = power + prejudice. Power requires strength in numbers Jews don't have and goyim do. Therefore only goyim can be racist.

        —Arabs are white and therefore racist. Iranians are even whiter and therefore even more racist.

        [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I know you're being facetious. And if not, you're beainwashed beyond belief. Jews can be very racist to other people, just as a non-Jew can be.

        Goyim is a derogatory word.

        [–]Crystalmenthol 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

        Everybody understands what "anti-semitic" means, it means an attack on Jews or the Jewish faith. Changing the topic to etymology when the word has clearly moved beyond its roots is a transparent attempt to confuse the subject, not a good faith debate tactic.

        Is there room to criticize Israel the country? Absolutely. Is there room to openly discuss ancient traditions from all religions, for example which oppress women and exclude outsiders? Sure.

        Where it starts to get hairy is when someone asserts that an ancient cabal has been running the world from the shadows for millenia, even though the members of that "cabal" have been systematically oppressed throughout all recorded human history, and were subject to genocide in the past century. Not a very effective shadow-government, if it ever was one.

        [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        No, it doesn't. It means, clearly, being anti-semitic, which means being anti-arab, anti-Palestinian and anti-Jewish if the Jew is semitic, as not all Jews are semitic.

        Attack on Jewish faith is anti-Judaic, not anti-Semitic. As a Christian I am anti-Judaic and I am against modern Talmudism Jewish supremacism such as what the Likudniks preach and those who are against Yeshua. That doesn't mean I hate them, I just do not agree with their religion or ethnostate.

        Neocons are particularly anti-Semitic.

        Changing the topic to etymology when the word has clearly moved beyond its roots is a transparent attempt to confuse the subject, not a good faith debate tactic.

        Nope, the modern use of it today, stolen by certain Jews is clearly used the wrong way and an insult on anyone with intelligence.

        Where it starts to get hairy is when someone asserts that an ancient cabal has been running the world from the shadows for millenia, even though the members of that "cabal" have been systematically oppressed throughout all recorded human history, and were subject to genocide in the past century. Not a very effective shadow-government, if it ever was one.

        There's certainly a Jewish mafia as their is an Italian mafia.

        Certain Jews have a terrible amount of power and have done terrible things. The common, ordinary Jew is propagandized more than any other person to go along with the Palestinian apartheid based on fear of Pogroms pushed by, most notably, Zionists.

        Read Lenni Brenner or Jews against Zionism and you'll see how anti-Semitic many wealthy Zionist Jews really are.

        Is Loeb, Schiff, Warburg, Seligman, Guggenheim, Belmont, Rothschild, etc., Jewish? Yes, they are! Who were the people, foreign to the republic, to travel to America and install a centralized, incorporated bank based on permanent public debt? Mostly Frankfurt Jewish bankers, who waited to get their citizenship until after they were successful in the takeover.

        Sounds pretty subversive to me!

        And funny enough, I'm not blaming Jews as a whole.

        [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I'm not a fan of changing words to mean their opposite or used for something exclusive when the word clearly defines how it is written out.

        (Anti) ----- (Semitic)

        Arabs are all Semitic

        Trump just passed an anti-Semitism bill where he had pedophile Alan Dershowitz speak on his behalf. Now, criticizing Israel or Zionism is anti-Semitic!

        That's what happens when you change the meanings of a word via modernism and use it to censor others when it doesn't even mean what you say it does.

        [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Certain Likudnik Jewish terrorists orchestrating 9/11 and blaming it on Arabs is pretty anti-Semitic.

        [–]buttermouth 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

        Maybe because there is unspoken truth there? If it keeps coming up country after country, century after century, might there be some truth there? I think many jews are good people but there is a sect called the Sabbetean Frankists that are all about being as evil as they can to bring the end times as soon as they can.

        [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        Well, Talmud does teach usury on non-Jews.

        Many of the first billionaires were Jewish. Jews were great wrh money and banking ans that is particularly why many people in other countries would turn on Jews as a whole rather than a tightly knit of Jewish and non-Jew swindlers.

        [–]AllStr8SexIsRape 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

        You say interest, I say reparations.

        Only Jews should be allowed to have money because goyim will only waste it on frivolous crap.

        [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Why should I even listen to you now after uttering this crap.

        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Okay, reactionary.

        [–]AllStr8SexIsRape 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        Then those countries will all fall like dominoes as payback for their goy racism.

        [–]Crystalmenthol 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Or maybe human nature is just crap in general, and we've been proving that for centuries. Any cabal that secretly runs the world while still allowing its own people to be systematically oppressed and genocided is a pretty lousy cabal, I wouldn't want to be part of that.

        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

        So why is there so much straight up Nazi ideology here? Like, s/Judaism is literally just antisemetic conspiracies

        Classic example of tossing out an epithet instead of addressing the central premise. Would be much better to provide solid examples of the "Nazi ideology" you're critiquing and why it is so unacceptable. I'm not sold at all.

        [–]aThievingStableboy 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

        abvsetaste

        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        Yeah, what a great attitude to have on a free speech platform. All condescension and ad homeniems, no substance... I personally think this site does a great job at balancing moderation with freedom. Don't know what else you would even want...

        [–]aThievingStableboy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

        agesfaset

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        What exactly is so offensive about the five posts on s/Judaism? That is what you consider offensive? Its pretty tame as far as "antisemitism" and "nazi ideology" goes, you're just a little too sensitive

        [–]aThievingStableboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        svera

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        GTFO this site if you're going to bitch about Nazism and make stupid claims with nothing to back it up

        [–]aThievingStableboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        asgertas

        [–]Jesus-Christ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        Any criticism involving Jews = Anti-Semetic. Why are you even here if you're just going to complain and not actually provide anything thoughtful?

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          [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          /u/magnora7 what is this?

          Not being Jewish is racism against God. Jews are a race unto ourselves and superior to your worthless cracker goy parasite shit-covered ass.

          This is the crap you get from people like this. Ad hominem after ad hominem after ad hominem.

          [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          He's already banned for other comments

          [–]RecordStory 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

          When everyone on your site is here because they were banned for hate speech else theyare going to engage in nonstop hate speech. The world doesn't see a difference between Nazis and TERFS, if anything should open peoples eyes about who is behind all this gender critical stuff, its this nazi filled site. The evangelicals and Nazis propagandize dumbass wealthy boomer white lesbians into spreading division in the queer community. Luckily people are wise to the game and send them off to shitholes like this website. All these hateful assholes can hang out with each other, and people like me will come by top screen cap and show normal people just how shitty TERFS and Nazis and Trump supporters are.

          [–]AllStr8SexIsRape 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

          Stop calling gays q---r you fucking breeder piece of shit. And calling feminists "Nazis" is right out of the Rush Limbaugh playbook. If acknowledging that tr-ns is a choice and gay isn't makes me a Nazi, then heil JK Rowling!

          [–]RecordStory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Hate group shithead in hate group shithole. There's 15 people at a table and one nazi, its a table full of nazis. You're going to get called a f****** Nazi until you stop buying into conservative propaganda against trans people. Until then, you will be relegatex to shitholes like this and labeled nazi scum.

          Feminist care about all women, you are not a feminist, you're just a useful idiot to nazis.

          [–]GConly 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          The world doesn't see a difference between Nazis and TERFS, if

          Actually most of the UK population agrees with the evil TERFS in not wanting self ID, or allowing random men access to changing rooms and prisons on their own say so.

          Because, you know, sex offending. It's already happened here. Several prison incidents plus one TIM tried to rape a little girl in the ladies loo almost as soon as letting them have access became commonplace.

          Turns out that we were misled when we were told that transwomen had female brains, female offending behaviour and were mostly post op homosexuals.

          Once that lie started to break down the public sympathy started to dry up like your last date when she saw you naked.

          [–]AllStr8SexIsRape 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          Because goyism is blasphemy, heterosexuality is perversion, and whiteness is racism.

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Modern Judaism is blasphemy as Yeshua was the true Jewish Messiah and will come again.

          Homosexuality is perversion

          Skin color need not matter.

          [–]piss[S] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

          Oh I thought the one I posted was the official version for some reason. I don't know where I found it then lol. Thanks.

          [–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          The one you found is most commonly called "Graham's Hierarchy Of Disagreement" found on Wikipedia linking back among many international variations on Wikimedia Commons where you'll also find the newer versions I did, which are also mirrored on InfoGalactic.

          [–]piss[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          That does ring a bell now that I see the name actually. Cheers.

          [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          It's named after the creator Paul Graham, who is also the founder of ycombinator I later learned.

          [–]Extract 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

          What do you define as Advocating Violence?
          Just curious, after all, without a clear definition this is no different than Reddit's "hate speech" rules.

          [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

          Threatening another person or animal with violence.

          Such as:

          We should kill "blank"

          We should nuke "blank"

          I wouldn't mind "blank" killing off "blank@

          [–]RecordStory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          The post telling me "you'll get a bullet too" from user IHateJews is a good metric of what this site is all about

          [–]Jesus 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Mention /u/magnora7 and he'll delete anyone who incites violence. It is not allowed here.

          Hasbara does this a lot. They will flood the place posting about how "Jews should be killed" etc., pretty disgusting so that other companies will pick up these stigmas when saidit gets bigger in order to discredit the site or even evoke laws to censor. Recent anti-Semitism law makes criticizing Israel anti-Semitic so I can only imagine once the government gets full control over the internet which is what many conservatives ironically condone the censorship campaign of conspiracy theorists and dissenters will truly begin.

          [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

          /u/IHateJews Does not exist?

          [–]shadow_wolf7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Why are u lying?

          [–]Extract 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Does this expand to groups of people?
          Such as, "we should kill all X", "X should just fuck off and die", "a good X is a dead X", etc?

          [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          No, it should not. Because then any censor could catagorize groups willy nilly for his own censorship agenda.

          The first one is inciting violence.

          The 2nd isn't threatening someone with violence. It's a saying but is very low on the pyramid of debate.

          The last is inciting violence.

          These are my opinions though.

          [–]lyth 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          That's great. Thanks for sharing.

          [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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            [–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Cool, nice colors :)

            [–]Leo_Littlebook 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

            That is nonsense. For example, the following is valid dialectic:

            First-time 1st-degree murderers often later commit multiple murders, are expensive to house, and have low rehabilitation success. Moreover, a visible prompt death penalty reduces the murder rate by X%. Therefore, 1st degree murders should be promptly and visibly executed.

            What you should say instead is that for legal and financial reasons you are unwilling to host calls for violence against people, especially ones that are egregious, inflammatory, or politically incorrect. It has nothing to do with the pyramid of debate.

            [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            What you should say instead is that for legal and financial reasons you are unwilling to host calls for violence against people, especially ones that are egregious, inflammatory, or politically incorrect. It has nothing to do with the pyramid of debate.

            That's also true, but that doesn't mean I don't also care about the pyramid of debate. The two are not mutually exclusive.

            [–]Leo_Littlebook 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            Irrelevant. My argument was that the addition to the pyramid of debate is false. Ad hominem already covers the fallacy of derailing a debate with calls for violence. Otherwise advocating violence isn't intrinsically fallacious. It's amusing to tack false reasoning onto a pyramid advocating sound reasoning.

            [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            You see no benefits of having additional contrast?

            Do you also think 1st degree murder and 3rd degree murder should be the same in the legal system because they're both murder? Same logic

            [–]Leo_Littlebook 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            You see no benefits of having additional contrast?

            Irrelevant. If you wanted additional contrast rather than a logical fallacy promoting pacifism, then you would've titled it "ad hominem that promotes violence," making it clear that logically-sound promotion of violence is acceptable.

            Do you also think 1st degree murder and 3rd degree murder should be the same in the legal system because they're both murder? Same logic

            No it isn't. I'm impressed that you're persisting in this obviously false line of reasoning. The correct analogy in legal terms would be

            1. libel (the legal equivalent of ad hominem)
            2. hate speech (calling mean names whether libelous or not)
            3. killing (whether lawful or not, including military, criminal justice, self-defense, etc)

            I just noticed that the name-calling tier is also not about dialectic. It's banning incendiary personal rhetoric, regardless of logical soundness. So you're banning some forms of rhetoric as too visceral and some dialectical topics as too aggressive. Nothing to do with debate per se. You could call it "the pyramid of nice disagreement", which is what Paul Graham was getting at. Not polite or civil, but nice.

            Anyway with two tiers of the pyramid irrelevant to dialectic it's clear to me that this pyramid was originally about niceness anyway, so I'm no longer triggered. Paul Graham cares more about making money with his Silicon Valley multicultural substantially-Communist friends that he does about e.g. the heritage American nation. And Saidit must run on substantially the same infrastructure that Silicon Valley uses.

            [–]AllStr8SexIsRape 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            Some individuals and groups have actually earned violence through their hateful and oppressive words and deeds. It's not wrong to advocate violence against an oppressor class. It's wrong to be one.

            [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Well, you'll get banned then, because advocating violence unto others is wrong.