I love the fact that people with different opinions are all allowed here.

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[–]PencilPusher55 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Curious. What is up with the go-to of bad online personalities being Neo-Nazi's? I think the far left (reddit) has been the most malignant, nasty, and oppressive personalities that I have run into.

[–]Zednix 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

People have been taught that Nazis are the most evil thing you can be, not that being a Stalinist/Communist/Marxist is equally or more evil in many instances. They default to Nazi = worst evil because of the lack of knowledge about Marixsm and Stalinism.

[–]Mouldy_Badger 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

TBF, the Nazis were kind of cunts.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Fair enough but from what I hear, that Stalin guy was a real jerk.

[–]Mouldy_Badger 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He changed. OK with the Nazis, a cunt afterwards.

Russian history is a rabbit-hole, expect no sanity there.

[–]King_Brutus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I can tell you also that I have met very few actual outright "neo nazis" in my time online and FAR more out and proud "communists" and "marxists".

Just anecdotal

[–]Mouldy_Badger 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You need better friends. Neither should be an option.

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"met" is a loose term, I was mostly referencing online users. Unfortunately it seems communism and marxism are far more publicly acceptable and more people I know are trending towards them.

[–]Mouldy_Badger 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We're all dogs online

[–]Zednix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They certainly were evil, but we don't get taught just how evil the Communists are.

[–]Lastrevio 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well I guess Nazism intentionally wants to kill people while marxists don't but they end up killing people indirectly so this makes them not technically advocate for murder.

[–]Zednix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stalinism/communism/marxism are all branches from the same tree. Stalinism/Communism is quite a bit more evil than Nazism, but that's getting into evil olympics. I guess the main problem is that in Western cultures we aren't taught about the disgusting evils of communism, only nazism.

[–]Double_A 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Well if somebody is straigh up posting hateful things against jews or non-white people... It's not too far of a stretch to connect those with Nazis.

[–]GConly 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Depends. What if the facts, and hard data, make Jews or non white people look bad?

Asking people to refrain from using calls to violence or racial slurs is compatible with free speech. Banning people calling for violence is fine. Banning them for posting data that shows a group has an offending problem is not compatible with free speech.

I've literally heard data called 'hate facts' because it showed black Americans had an offending rate about seven times NH whites. It's just data.

The second you stop genuine discourse and data being exchanged because it makes a minority uncomfortable, you've buggered your society. Shit has to be dealt with.

[–]Double_A 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What kind of data? Mostly it's completely biased and un-scientific bs that goes around in "right-wing" social media. The most honest error is usually ignoring confounding factors. I.e. attributing criminality to race, when it's actually connected to poverty and poverty happens to also be connected to race for other irrelevant reasons.

[–]bald-janitor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The 13 50 one

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nazis = Members of National Socialist german workers Party. Nearly All dead.

If you critique or criticize Israel or Jewish supremacism you are NOT A NAZI. Many people criticized Jews and zealots thousands of years before Nazis.

[–]Double_A 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes by "Nazi" everyone is literally talking about German party members of the NSDAP... /s

Spoiler: They mean people that have been brainwashed into being extremely intolerant and bigoted without real reasons towards a random (usually small) group of other people.

[–]BravoVictor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

To be fair, there are people equally racist and shitty on the left (aka ChapoTrapHouse and BLM), but there's not really a catch all term for them. Communists maybe? Identitarians? Historically, communists have murdered a lot more people than the Nazis ever did, but a lot of functional communists don't really embrace the term.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Communists murdered homosexuals and them you have people here saying that communists embrace perversion such as pedophilia. Sorry but, if anything commies push it to ideologically subvert a foreign nation, corporations probably do it to keep people apathetic and consumer happy.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Neo-nazis were also blamed initially for the anthrax attacks by Neocons but we know who really did those attacks, neocons.