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[–]butterferret12 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What a truly horrific development. On the upside, however, maybe they'll get a taste of what they seem to want.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Gosh, it's almost as if when you don't have a government, the most sociopathic and power-hungry rise to the top.

Usually it takes a few years after the Revolution though. I guess they skipped the intervening part with redistribution of wealth and show trials for right wingers with public executions.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's almost as if when you don't have a government, the most sociopathic and power-hungry rise to the top.

What do you think a government is? You say that like that's not already what is happening.

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where is that reddit thread?

[–]daveeee 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Leopards took her face away.

What absolute clowns.

[–]Wahwah 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Bring lots and lots of soy.

[–]Newmug 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Where was this?

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Looks like Seattle from another post on saidit about it

[–]butterferret12 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What's the context for this?

[–]Sebine 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

[–]butterferret12 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I find myself conflicted. While resistance to government tyranny is indeed a noble cause, regardless of whether I think such tyranny exists, these people have shown clearly that they are no more than authoritarians in anarchists clothing.

Seeing that this has happened is less than surprising, but the fact that such actions have significant support from politicians makes me genuinely fear for the future of this country.

[–]Canbot 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

BLM is literally funded by the DNC. Donations to BLM go into DNC coffers. They use the organization to race bait before elections. By making POC feel threatened or marginalized they can control their vote.

Antifa is the same thing. The Antifa guy who was caught paying rioters was literally on Bernie Sanders staff.

[–]Big_Brass_Balls 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Capitol

Hill

Autists

Zone

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Authoritarian Communism doesn't work, authoritarian Socialism doesn't work, but a mixed economy with social programs and real capitalism and public lands does work.

Capitalism and Communism work together. Read the 'Sealed Train' by Pearson concerning Lenin, none of these people really cared about the poor, peasants, nor labour; only on paper but never in their actions.

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      [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

      ...there are not enough producers to support free-loaders. it is the nature of the parasite to always destroy the host.

      Well, if we had a sound currency that wasn't backed by bonds, I think the population would be far healthier. Government is at fault for errecting these programs.

      But I agree, so many people are taking advantage of these programs.

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        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Syphillis is a spirochete like Borrelia. Both can wreck havoc on a population if left untreated. The latter is totally ignored by medical establishment. The former can be exchanged via person to person through Sexual transmission, The former also was tested on colored people without their consent by teh US medical establishment.

        What is your take on National Socialism and their social programs? Would you consider them a socialist empire? Or was the name only a neology? By the way, I'm not a socialist.

        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        May I ask, who do you think had motive to kill Lincoln? Lincoln was indeed a Whig and the British bankers lost the war to the recinstructionists. Mainstream history would have you believe that Southerns had him killed because Lincoln was an abolitionist and hence opposed slavery.

        My question to you is if Lincoln was never assassinated could Stevens have passed all the reconstruction bullet points he desired? We know who killed Lincoln, Booth and we are told he was mad because Lincoln opposed slavery but is there more to this? Is Booth be connected to the radical Republican reconstructionists?

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          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          But, is there a connection with Booth to the radical republicans??

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            [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            That's not really a connection. Booth has to have some covert connections to the radical republicans for there to be written a good thesis on this.

            [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            You bet. Lincoln was basically a marxist. And where do these funds come from? Your labour?

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              [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

              Yes, that Lenin was a German stooge or at the very least was only moved by Germany when Germany wanted him to move.

              Are farmer co-opts socialist? Are communals socialist? Yes, both systems are authoritarian for they must confiscate labour.

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                [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                I read in a long time ago. Is there a pdf or archive? And yes, it was a war measure ie. a geopolitical agenda.

                Hey, I just found the book on your site:

                The final irony was that the Germans’ investment in Lenin was returned to them—with enormous interest. Under a supplementary agreement to the Brest-Litovsk Treaty in August 1918, the new Soviet government paid the Germans 120,000,000 gold rubles—at contemporary rates of exchange more than 240,000,000 marks and far more than the Foreign Office supplied to the Bolsheviks.

                As for Lenin himself, once the Germans had launched their spring offensive with the support of the divisions he had enabled them to transfer from the Eastern Front, he had, as they saw it, served his purpose to them. Like the right-wing Russians, they did not believe he would be able to retain power. “He will have the whole Cossack army against him,” asserted the Kaiser, although already Kerensky’s attempt to advance on Petersburg had failed and he had fled the country. But the German ruler reckoned without the fanatic determination and dedication of the Bolsheviks and the Red Army in the two-year civil war against the enormous forces arrayed them.

                It was not Lenin but the Kaiser who would lose power. The offensive in the West, for which Wilhelm had used Lenin to provide so many troops, was almost successful—but not quite. It proved to be the Germans’ last desperate effort in the long and debilitating struggle between the imperial powers. And once it failed, the German nation was left too exhausted to defend itself against the counteroffensive with which the Allies responded, now with the help of the newly arrived American troops.

                Lenin’s new society did not, however, emerge in the form he intended. Certainly, he destroyed the capitalist system. But Lenin’s vision of a society constructed on the lines of the Paris Commune, as he outlined in his letters from Switzerland and in his April Theses speech in the Tauride Palace, did not materialize. He managed to create a socialist state with a keynote of equality, but his concept of rule from below by the people as opposed to rule from above by the establishment never even began to appear.

                Indeed, the system of rule from above which he set up was far more rigid than that of the Tsar he replaced. And the secret police he established proved far more repressive than the Okhrana. Ultimately Lenin controlled his Russia by means of terror.

                Source: https://www.yamaguchy.com/library/pearson/pearson_index.html

                I should not have said Lenin was a German Stooge for he truly believed in what he was doing. In creating an "egalitarian" socialist state. But as we know, which Pearson has highlighted and Solzhenitsyn has further added upon, that state was controlled via top-down orders, sometimes through terror and hence, Laborers had little if any freedom.

                [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                What is your opinion on public lands vs. private property?

                [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                Ok, I've been busy these couple of days. Can anyone tell me what this "Seattle autonomous zone" is about?

                [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                Armed insurrection, territory seized and not under the control of the US government. It's Fort Sumter all over again.

                [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                The US Federal Corporation. And comparing this to Fort Sumter, lol.

                [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                It's Fort Sumter all over again.

                TL, DR for a non-murican?

                [–]Captzapheart 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                If the homeless fill their articulated lorries with tons of food, I'd be very impressed with this tight logistical manuver

                [–]DonQuixote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                Several people who live in the area have been spending a lot of their time trying to point out how this whole thing is a farce. The police are leaving them to fend for themselves while Reddit and Twitter are used to create an illusion of activism.

                I will go back and gather the social media info on the locals I mentioned. I think it's important that we watch this charade closely. If we pay attention we will see how they are concocting a justification to some action that will further cripple us.

                It lets us know where we are headed next and gives those of us who were not already aware, more time to prepare and coordinate.