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[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"All the gains are privatized while the risks are socialized among the masses" is how I would describe it. Just new ways to take profit while lowering risk because they don't have to actually own any assets.

[–]sinedup4thiscomment 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Other than the fact that Bitcoin isn't a bank, Uber is likely to lease automated vehicles once legislation changes. Las Vegas already has experimental automated lyft vehicles you can opt into using. You must consider how these industries have created more jobs and brought more income to more people, more services, and more large scale business in these industries, than ever before seen.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world that companies are doing this, but I know working for Uber is actually extremely tough and doesn't pay well at all. I can see the benefit of jobs created though, as well as the benefit to challenging the established (and often overpriced) taxi system in cities like NYC.

But all that aside, it's interesting that so many large companies now don't actually own the assets they have their employees use for profit-generating. They lease it.

To me, that makes me worried that companies like this are very fragile, because they don't have assets to fall back on if they have a bad quarter. The instability is probably the most worrying part of leasing everything rather than owning.

If a large number of companies use this "leasing assets" strategy, then the whole economy could fall over the first quarter all these companies have a bad quarter and are forced to fold because they can't make the lease payments and are maxed out on debt.

[–]sinedup4thiscomment 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

but I know working for Uber is actually extremely tough and doesn't pay well at all

It doesn't pay well, but there are incomparably more drivers than there ever were Taxicab drivers. It is supplemental income for most of drivers.

But all that aside, it's interesting that so many large companies now don't actually own the assets they have their employees use for profit-generating. They lease it.

More often they act as intermediaries to facilitate business, handling administration and adherence to the law within the parameters of the industries they are innovating. As far as leasing goes, that's not a widespread development in these industries, although that is the path Uber and Lyft specifically plan on going down.

The instability is probably the most worrying part of leasing everything rather than owning.

A lack of assets isn't stopping these companies from operating for years, losing billions every year. Their investors view these losses as investments in growing market share and innovating cost reducing implements.

If a large number of companies use this "leasing assets" strategy, then the whole economy could fall over the first quarter all these companies have a bad quarter and are forced to fold because they can't make the lease payments and are maxed out on debt.

This is unlikely to happen. Uber for example has raised something like $100BN+. They could continue losing money for another 20 years before burning through that. The investors in these corporations are playing the long game. They expect that Uber will one day be a trillion dollar corporation.