Intelligence isn't genetic

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[–]Zahn 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The article stated that up to 80% of intelligence is inherited. The nurture theory is old news, and you're clinging to an increasingly antiquated idea, grandpa. You can provide someone as much environmental education as possible and they will still never be a Mozart. You must not have much real life experience, or you would know that you cannot educate someone to be a genius.

The identical twins study:

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-factors-determine-intelligence-2795285

*Tips Fedora

[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

When did I claim you could educate someone to reach the IQ level of genius?

There are geniuses of all races. What do you make of that?

[–]Zahn 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes there are geniuses of all races. In Nigeria, there is about 1 genius per 400 people, in Scotland there is about 1 genius per 40 people.

[–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

hah. that's the tail on the not-normal curve coming into play

[–]whereswhat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Still waiting on the source for those numbers.

[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Where are you getting those numbers from? Having a hard time finding any data on the genius rate in Scotland or Nigeria.

I don't deny average IQ is much lower in some countries than others. That is not a valid indication that genes associated with race are also associated with intelligence though.

[–]Zahn 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I don't deny average IQ is much lower in some countries than others

It's like you're choosing to ignore an important detail. Those countries are comprised of particular ethnic groups/races.

[–]whereswhat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, some countries are also much hotter than others. Some don't have safe drinking water. Some are plagued by malaria. The only way to expose a causal relationship between race and intelligence is to understand it on a genetic level. We have not identified such a relationship to date.

None of the studies used here, conclude that the intelligence quotient is influenced by a particular race. In some cases, differences within population groups were found (e.g. in Basil: Blacks 71, Mulatto 81, Whites 95, Japaneses 99), but all differences could be attributed to their origin, level of education or other factors.

In 2006 Donald Templera and Hiroko Arikawab found a connection between increasing skin pigmentation and a decreasing IQ. Even this was not racially dued, because the pigmentation grade is climatically conditioned. The observations were also made within the same groups of other races, e.g. caucasians.

Criticism: The IQ was developed by West Europeans for West Europeans according to West European standards. It is still debatable whether this procedure can be applied to people(s) with entirely different social structures, cultures, values and ways of thinking.

https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php

[–]Zahn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

(These) studies are not entirely uncontroversial as they're often considering only specific population groups or only a few individuals per countries.

I'm not so much into the racial aspect of hereditary intelligence, but as said before, it's inevitable. For the most part then it's true that people from Singapore have a greater predisposition to higher intelligence and people from New Guinea have a lower one. Everyone else is in between these two extremes.

I accept that real equality is not natural or genuinely even possible. That I am smarter than some people and some people are smarter than me. I'm not offended by this. It's a beautiful revelation for a world view, that different approaches can be created around how various people perceive reality and require different methods of learning.

Instead we think everyones the same and will have the same outcomes. That we can solve everything wrong with people of all backgrounds by forcing and repeating the mantra of education/environment as if it's some social snake oil. That theory is clearly not working.