The Hierarchy of Self-Improvement Skills - what do you think of this image?

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Kinda follows Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The lower ones support the upper ones, the upper ones aren't often achievable until some improvement happens in the lower levels.

[–]Tom_BombadilBombadildo 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Diogenes would strongly disagree.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

LOL

So would Buckethead.

[–]AirSeddit88 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Might it be useful to specifically mention a meditation practice at the base of the pyramid in Health? Meditation integrates mind and body so both cooperate with greater flow, and develops the focused awareness necessary and desirable to operate at all levels of the pyramid. "The crucial determinant of the outcome of any situation is the consciousness with which you meet ii." -I forget

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

IMO it's okay, but not great. Sorry to be a poop on your parade. "Inspired by" is okay, if it's logical, but I see issues.

Having a home is more important than a job. A person can be young, retired, or on disability and not have a job - yet have a home. Obviously a job can pay for the home so they are linked - as security.

Hygiene and/or a clean home is not critical until it impacts health. It's not bad until it impacts social relations. It's generally nicer than not. But ultimately one can have a job and a home and not have hygiene or order.

I would say a social network (friends and family, or community centers, city welfare, etc) are more critical than jobs, home, and certainly hygiene. For example one can couch surf until you get your shit together.

Careers are just jobs that people chose and like, or have defaulted into longterm.

Passions, interests, hobbies, sports, goals, dreams, meditation, learning, and teaching, etc. are noble.

FYI, the https://infogalactic.com/info/SaidIt_Debate_Pyramid_gallery has SVGs that you can download and edit.

I'd like to see a revised version.

[–]Aureus[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks. I agree with a lot of what you said. Having a home is definitely more important than having a job, though my logic was that if you don't have a home (for example if you live with a friend or relative) you will need to get a job to pay for one.

Considering the flaws with this version, I'm not sure a totally accurate revised version is possible. But going forward I'm going to put parts of this basic framework into posts and images, taking into account what you said.

[–]JasonCarswellMental Orgy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm glad you took it in the helpful spirit it was intended. It's not easy to classify and organize our world as some things are not mutually exclusive or easily hierarchical. Sometimes things can be paradoxically equivalent while opposites.

I applaud your efforts. You might find it worth discussing your variation here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs and/or here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Self-help

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs already has some pyramids but there's a huge difference between needs and wants, not to mention self-improvement.

FYI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-help (redirected from self-improvement) does NOT have a pyramid. Maybe it doesn't need one, or maybe you're just the person to develop one - or find a famous self-help person to adapt from.

For example, our SaidIt "Pyramid Of Debate", is actually "Graham's Hierarchy Of Disagreement" (and last year magnora7 added another bottom level for violence).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Graham_(programmer)#Graham's_hierarchy_of_disagreement