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[–]FormosaOolong 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Many viruses hide in the nervous system, where they can evade the immune system. They can cause neuropathy, chronic encephalopathy, meningeo-encepalopathy, and eventually certain cancers. If the herpesviruses--which most people have-- can do it (EBV, HSV, VZV, HHV-6, etc) I don't think it's unreasonable at all to ponder whether this virus can.

[–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's kind of good to hear it's so common for the CNS to get infected too. Maybe even though it happens 30% of the time with the covid-19, that extra CNS infection doesn't kill too many more people? Like for most it's a benign lifelong CNS infection? That'd be good news, I hope the CNS-based organ failure thing is extremely rare.

[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

@Magnora,

I've read similar to your research. There's also implications that 5G is directly tied to this. As far as the naysayers, time always tells, but the obvious telling nature of 'truth' is that it's usually shunned, and those speaking of it are ridiculed.

I'm leaning in the direction that the Military Games hosted in the Hubei Province, with military's from around the world, is when this virus was released; it would explain the spread that's popping up here, and there. The 5g tech was also created to allow some sort of electromagnetic opening of pores, and cells for direct aerosolized immunization. So yeah, I lean towards this being a smart bug. We all maybe looking at the second wave incoming soon.

Does it really matter? The NPC's don't care, won't listen, but they'll panic on cue, and I know the cabal will have most begging for their solution to their created problem.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think it's related to 5G at all, personally. There's not enough evidence.

However there is a lot of evidence it is a man-made bio-weapon

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

5G is terrible for the enviroment though, takes up hige amounts of data, has zero privavcy, an easily be used to apy on people in real time, and is in the same Ghz frequency to be concentrated into a crowd control weapon whoch uses 80 - 90 ghz. 5G is 22 - 90 ghz. LTE is around 5ghz.

Not to mention studies do show this frequency Has detrimental effects on insects and certain animals. So lets put it everywhere, for profit!

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Yeah, Corona Virus is actually more of a PsyOp than amything else. It rarely kills, 95% - 97% recover from it with no symptoms.

They do this fearmongering every election year with a stupid virus.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, Corona Virus is actually more of a PsyOp than amything else. It rarely kills, 95% - 97% recover from it with no symptoms.

They do this fearmongering every election year with a stupid virus.

'okay'. with intelligent as I know you are, I figured you'd have used forward thinking to see where this goes. Perhaps it'll fizzle out, I would like that, out.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It normally does, considering every election year they have a scary Virus to fear-monger, H1N1, go back and you'll see apocalypitic article titles, you had SARS in 2008, Zika, the Ebola scam, a deadly disease put totally exaggerated to scare Americans, and now Corona among others during thr Bush and Obama election years.

COVID-12 isn't dangerous, AT ALL, in American infections such as Babesia, Bartonella, and Borrelia Burgdoferi, Hermsi and other strains are far more detrimental to the economy and for people living between 21 - 41. They simply deny that these diseases persist, and name their symptoms as new dosease to make money off of the sick. And yet, the unconstitutional CDC suddenly cares about a virus that is far less dangerous, whilst they continue to cover up other diseases, bioweapons, and falsify diagnostics.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

okay, a nothingburger, and nothing is going on. I'll just take your post, and go to my local costco, and walmart, show the folks, so as to calm them.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

crisis actors, https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/03/08/dr-francis-boyle-bioterrorism.aspx

Sure are a lot of folks being willing crisis actors in this, huh.... I mean, a biological hoax, to hide the real biological hoaxes, man this is intense.. Next you know, this fake hoax will be crashing the eco... Oh wait a minute?! hahahaha

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Well that's an arricle from Mercola, I don't know how true it is, all I know is that COVID-19 isn't dangerous at all. They only focus on the poor prognosises, which causes symptom bias, when millions have aquired COVID-19, and will recover from it with no ill effects. That is the truth.

So, in this article, which, interestingly, a lot of the alternative news pundits, those of the Alex Jones Types spew the apocalyptic canard, that the disease is really going to kill us all.

So, either it really isn't COVID-19; and is this:

Chimera. It includes SARS, an already weaponized coronavirus, along with HIV genetic material and possibly flu virus.

SARS is more danferous than COVID-19, has a higher lethality, but I'd have to read more up o the HIV genetic angle. If all that is true then, indeed, it could be weaponized. But so far, it isn't a pandemic, and the fear mongering is absurd. They did this with H1N1, writing apocalyptic titles during the election year, saying jt was an absolute pandemic, and yet only 40 people died for each country, 40!!! Which is tens of thousands of times less than flu deaths per just ONE COUNTRY.

They also did this with Zika, and then Ebola. The latter is a real disease but was run as a PsyOp in the US, the former was over-exaggerated to aquire bioweapons funding. Zika isn't that deadly of a disease, and healthy adults will not die from it.

So, either it IS COVID-19; and thusly an overaggeeated PsyOp.

Or it is weaponized, and not really COVID-19; and they know something we don't, but that would mean it was a pandemic, and it has not reached those levels yet.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Well that's an arricle from Mercola, I don't know how true it is, all I know is that COVID-19 isn't dangerous at all. They only focus on the poor prognosises, which causes symptom bias, when millions have aquired COVID-19, and will recover from it with no ill effects. That is the truth.

So, in this article, which, interestingly, a lot of the alternative news pundits, those of the Alex Jones Types spew the apocalyptic canard, that the disease is really going to kill us all.

So, either it really isn't COVID-19; and is this:

Chimera. It includes SARS, an already weaponized coronavirus, along with HIV genetic material and possibly flu virus.

SARS is more danferous than COVID-19, has a higher lethality, but I'd have to read more up o the HIV genetic angle. If all that is true then, indeed, it could be weaponized. But so far, it isn't a pandemic, and the fear mongering is absurd. They did this with H1N1, writing apocalyptic titles during the election year, saying jt was an absolute pandemic, and yet only 40 people died for each country, 40!!! Which is tens of thousands of times less than flu deaths per just ONE COUNTRY.

They also did this with Zika, and then Ebola. The latter is a real disease but was run as a PsyOp in the US, the former was over-exaggerated to aquire bioweapons funding. Zika isn't that deadly of a disease, and healthy adults will not die from it.

So, either it IS COVID-19; and thusly an overaggeeated PsyOp.

Or it is weaponized, and not really COVID-19; and they know something we don't, but that would mean it was a pandemic, and it has not reached those levels yet.

There are several doctors, and written papers stating that this is SARS-COV-2. All the other viruses you mention, never came close to the response to this virus(real, or make believe; things are in motion).

As far as the truth? I don't have any, but I see a lot of people that are very sure of themselves.

I was in Mexico, at ground zero when they announced H1N1; I left my partner in Mexico, and had family obligations in the USA. My flight was one of a handful let go before Mexico City, and Mexico locked flights down.

There was no panic in the streets, no one falling over, but just a few people lined up at the different free clinics; which wasn't to out of the ordinary.

I honestly don't give a crap real, or not real, or whatever boat the next guy wants to sell for their own self validation from the next guy who finds faith in them. They, the cabal are locking stuff down with this; you can be one of the guys on tv screaming, 'it's not real', as they haul you away, and the NPC's will simply watch, and thank the government for doing that.

On that note though, I agree all people should look out for themselves, as there's a lot of crazy, and crazies running around.

PS. on the Mexico H1N1, we called into AJ's show, talked with him, told him it was all hype.... He hung up on us, then proceeded to state we were govt. shills..... I've been down, and lived this crap. Whatever is going on now, is way different.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

never came close to the response to this virus(real, or make believe; things are in motion).

Never said it was a hoax or make believe.

There was no panic in the streets, no one falling over, but just a few people lined up at the different free clinics; which wasn't to out of the ordinary.

?????

They, the cabal are locking stuff down with this; you can be one of the guys on tv screaming, 'it's not real', as they haul you away, and the NPC's will simply watch, and thank the government for doing that.

Point taken, they seem to be getting ready for something, which I do not disagree with.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There was no panic in the streets, no one falling over, but just a few people lined up at the different free clinics; which wasn't to out of the ordinary.

?????

In your haste to call this current response a hoax, and not real, and list off other diseases, one of which was the H1N1, I simply pointed out that I was there. We lived in El Estado de Yucatan, in Merida. Campeche was to our West, Quintana Roo to our South; The Gulf to our east, and north. Veracruz, ground zero, was I think 2 states away, but proximal via the Gulf.

To compare it to today, I guess it would've been China, but then. There was zero panic, and hardly any shutdown. But I did get to experience being on literally one of the last few, like 5 flights out of the Capitol City... I was one of about 10 passengers on an Airbus 320. That was H1N1, and it doesn't come close to the response we're seeing now.

We can go back through what you wrote. I'm not sure what's going on, but I won't call it a hoax, because it's obviously a set up for greater things. Manufacturing has stopped in China, the supply routes are stopped. The price of oil is now at around $30 bucks, and dropping, and the Dow futures for Monday are down another 1000 points last I checked.

I've got a very dear friend, screaming it's not SARS-COV-2, but Candida Auris.... I'm very aware of other possibilities, as I'm aware that this is all staged, and planned.. The Cabal is presenting their version of a Shakespearean masterpiece, and in their version audience participation is mandatory; whether you want to, or not, or not even aware.

So does a name matter? Does it matter to scream "No, that's a hoax, but this over here that causes the same thing by description is the real deal"? I don't think it does, as all of us are simply watching. And the sad thing? Those that don't know how to decide what to do for themselves, and turn to others; often times the others say something, anything, but was it the right move? Our words have consequences; especially at times like these.

I remember a major wind storm a while back. Our power was knocked out, and our neighbors also. We were talking out at the street, and I said, lets force the neighbors across the street that had power, to share theirs with us; we'll just run an extension cord over there..... I was JOKING. But the other idiots took me seriously, and somewhat thought it was a real working solution. My point, some things are dangerous.

And really, I'm done arguing; I simply wanted to clarify where you had a ????

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

NEVER SAID IT WAS A HOAX. The only people claiming it is a hoax are Trump and the Neocons. In fact, I'm not claiming it is a hoax, rather I posted the data to show that it isn't as dangerous as the media would have you believe, that's all. And time will tell, will it not? If the recoveries are already mroe than new cases, then we should see a stagnation soon. Furthremore, if it is overblown, then fear is the trigger. Exposing this side, the side of perception management through fear, should not be taken lightly.

We can go back through what you wrote. I'm not sure what's going on, but I won't call it a hoax, because it's obviously a set up for greater things. Manufacturing has stopped in China, the supply routes are stopped. The price of oil is now at around $30 bucks, and dropping, and the Dow futures for Monday are down another 1000 points last I checked.

Yes, like a cashless society, medical martial law, and mandatory vaccines. And let's say it was overblown, then the only people we would have to blame for calling for these solutions are the people. Believe it or not, million would willingly accept these solutions. If it does turn out to be a bioweapon, then it would also be prudent to tell the unaware of this aspect as well.

Candida Auris? I don't know about that, lots of people in forums are saying it is all kinds of things. But clearly TPTB are planning something.

"No, that's a hoax, but this over here that causes the same thing by description is the real deal"?

All of us are just watching it right? But the apocalyptic narrative and the dirty cash stories as well as microchip push from the media illustrates that they are fear-mongering people into willingly accepting an agenda propagandized by them and other agencies. Fear is control. Do not fear what is or isn't to come, preparation is totally fine.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You said:

Yeah, Corona Virus is actually more of a PsyOp than amything else. It rarely kills, 95% - 97% recover from it with no symptoms.

They do this fearmongering every election year with a stupid virus.

Actually several posts similar, and remarking in that you don't know why everyone is 'panicking'. The descriptive word for this is, 'hoax'.

As far as 'fearmongering', I've got a theory on that as well; they'll do whatever is necessary to increase the anxiety daily, if there's a lull, watch out for the next flare up.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

PsyOp does not = Hoax. From the posts I read and the data I compiled it seems, reasonable for the time being that they are exaggerating the virues lethality. I posts stats on COVID-19, the current stats to illustrate what experts are aaying compared to what the media is saying. And yes, a few experts say it is a bioweapon, its convenience when the US was attacking China's financial markets is a connection, whilst other experts say jt is not too big of a deal.

As for the panic. Are people panicking, the media says people are, certain localites are being very careful, that's for sure. Time will tell.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

95 - 97% make full recoveries. If it IS the Corona Virus, indeed, the media's broadcast on it is a PsyOp.

When Tom Cotton called it a Bioweapon, I think he was trying to cover-up the fact that it isn't! Or that it is but was made by US labs to hurt China financially. Again, in that case it can't be COVID-19 and has ro be something else.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When Tom Cotton called it a Bioweapon, I think he was trying to cover-up the fact that it isn't! Or that it is but was made by US labs to hurt China financially. Again, in that case it can't be COVID-19 and has ro be something else.

Please provide a list of your 'trusted sources'. Are you trying to convince me, or the NPC's? The NPC's are who surround us all; I plan around their reaction. What's your winning solution to bring light to the world of deceptions perpetrated by in your words, folks like Tom Cotton?

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Yes, you're speaking from an "I know in a concrete way", please provide the links, and perhaps short quotes for your proof. I've got plenty of medical studies by doctors on this. You'll state, 'psyops!'; which is fine, but at that point, I get the funny feeling that your stuff will look just as 'psyops!', and it negates what we're actually seeing.

I'm sitting my ass here in Washington State today, and I'm seeing this bullshit, just like I did at ground zero in Mexico, with H1N1, and this is again, way different. If your information is so concrete, then write it up in a way that doesn't make you sound like a conspiracy tard, so that we may share the insight with the world.

I say this, as I see a few different types so far; those who're hardcore Trump supporters that are truly worried about the value of their 401ks, their pensions, and their real estate; then I see the folks who I think you're in the camp of, that they're covering up the real biologicals, with the idea of a 'hoax biological'(there are numerous reputable people stating this is a bio weapon that was released), I don't comprehend the motivation to cover up one bioweapon, with the cover story of another bioweapon; then there are many that are taking an informed wait, and see; then there are the real targets we all must watch for, the masses/npcs.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

What is with the hysteria in this thread and this virus in general?

There are over 320 million people in this country. Yesterday I read that 60 people in the US are sick with it. The NY Times claims it's 163. It is nopt a pandemic and not even remotely concerning.

Here:

In the news, "HIV drug cures coronavirus" all of that panic now will start subsiding.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11106718/coronavirus-patient-successfully-treated-hiv-drug-spain/

100,000 cases globally, and 97% will show no ill effects.

A user on breakingnews.com, I think lays this out the best, which I'll post after the redefinggod article I read:

I personally think the hype surrounding COVID-19 is ridiculously overblown; you need only look at the numbers, do a little basic math, and apply common sense.

http://redefininggod.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/cdcfludeaths.png

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

As you can see, a severe flu season can cause around 61,000 deaths in a single year here in the US. So just imagine if the propagandists gave such a year’s dominant flu strain an exotic name like “FLUVID -19” and had the press start breathlessly covering every single infection and death like the plague was upon us. You would see headlines like this…

http://redefininggod.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/fluvid200302.png

Well you don’t have to just imagine such shenanigans, because it’s happening right now with COVID-19. To see that this is true, let’s crunch a few numbers…

China has roughly four times the population of the US, and it’s safe to assume that their yearly flu death rates are roughly comparable to ours, so China can have around 244,000 flu deaths in a bad year (61,000 x 4 = 244,000). And those deaths occur during the typical 13-week flu season which stretches from January through early April (remember that COVID-19 infections in China began appearing in numbers in January, right in sync with flu season).

So now that we’re 2/3 of the way through flu season, let’s look at how many Chinese have died of COVID-19 so far…

The official number of dead is currently 2,912, which is only 1.2% of yearly flu deaths in a bad year.

The alternative media narrative, ie your Alex Jones, Drudge Report, controlled oppositions state that deaths are actually 10 times higher than what’s being reported [no sources are given] would put the number of dead at 29,120, which is only 12% of yearly flu deaths in a bad year.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-23-coronavirus-outbreak-china-ten-times-worse.html

The highest alt-media number I’ve seen is that deaths are actually 52 times higher than what’s being reported, which would put the number of dead at 151,424, which is only 62% of yearly flu deaths in a bad year.


[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wow, okay, so you've done next to no research on this. I will state, as I have, and do, I don't know, but you're "Concrete" in your position of knowing by way of the CDC, and 'redefininggod'; it's even funnier that you use 'NaturalNews' as they've got some very good articles that lay out the case that this is very serious, and on par with SARS-Cov2.... That's funny as hell. I hope your advice on any topic is either not taken, or that should you give the wrong advice, somewhere there's forgiveness. Our words matter, and we're accountable.

You realize that Covid-19, is a Coronavirus, just like SARS, and MERS, but we should only have concern in your words if it's SARS?

On that note, I'm out, you win.... Not arguing.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've read hunderds of articles and pages on COVID, one reason being becuase I've always been interested in Bacteria and Viruses.

You realize that Covid-19, is a Coronavirus, just like SARS, and MERS, but we should only have concern in your words if it's SARS?

I do, which is why only time will tell if it mutates and/or is weaponized.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

This user could not have said it better so I'll link you the comment section, jsut scroll down and read his comments, I'll post them here also, they read:

Well it’s 2am in the uk – so I’ll just wake up 1 brain cell – CORONOVIRUS – GENOCIDE. In the 2 Months This Insignificant Virus has killed JUST 2,000 Worldwide.

  • FACT On Average 150,000 people a day die worldwide on an average day. [That's nearly 200,000 a day in China who die from the FLU annually.]

  • So 2,000 Coronavirus deaths In 60 Days – AVERAGES WORLDWIDE approx an Extra 35 Deaths PER DAY above the normal 150,000 average deaths per day.

NOT REALLY THE STUFF OF GENOCIDE IS IT 35 deaths a day worldwide.


It is so insignificant as a deadly Virus… THAT Real Experts state – there are probably…. 10X as many people infected – that have symptoms >> TOO MILD TO EVEN NOTICE - than those…. that are being recorded!

SO THAT’s >>> 3/4 of a MILLION infected – but – THEIR SYMPTOMS ARE TOO MILD….. TO EVEN NOTICE !!!


For most – THE Actual Symptoms are JUST ….

  • A RUNNY NOSE
  • A COUGH
  • A SORE THROAT / Fever (high temperature).

The vast majority of patients – at least 97 per cent, – will recover from these >>>> without any issues…. or medical help.

LOS ANGELES TIMES


Thousands of people in China and elsewhere ….have been infected ….. but have had… such mild reactions that >>>> no one even noticed.

--- said Dr. Tom Inglesby, director of the Center for Health Security at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-01-24/china-coronavirus-panic

BBC News; whilst fearmongering, has to legally say


Re INFECTED – HAVING SUCH MILD REACTIONS >>> NO ONE NOTICED >>> FROM THE LARGEST STUDY TO DATE (The paper by the CCDC, released on Monday and published in the Chinese Journal of Epidemiology, looked at more than 44,000 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in China as of 11 February.

  • So Known Infections 72,436 x 10 = 724,000 Who Will Have Had Symptoms – Too Mild – To Notice – YES >> ¾ Million

The Known 72,436 infections

Scientists have estimated there could be …..10 times as many people infected ….. as are ending up in the official statistics.

That ALSO means the overall death rate IN THE REST OF CHINA (Outside Hubei) is likely to be:

...lower than the 0.4% (rest of China) reported in this study (ie 10X LOWER – Making the death rate potentially ONLY 0.04)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51540981

EXPERT OPINION FROM – HEALTHLINE.COM


Extensive news coverage of the new coronavirus outbreak can make the situation seem much worse …. than it actually is.

Influenza virus …. still causes>>>> far more >>> illness and death worldwide.

EXPERTS also emphasize that;

this outbreak >>>> is significantly …… less dangerous than previous….. coronavirus epidemics…. . like SARS and MERS.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/dont-freak-out-about-the-coronavirus-just-yet#The-bottom-line

THE NATIONAL POST


A recent article by University of Hong scientists published >>>>> by the journal Lancet states …..

Based on the number of reported deaths when the paper was published Friday, Coronavirus would actually produce….. a mortality rate of >>>> just 0.2 per cent — akin to that >>> of regular influenzas.

“We don’t freak out about seasonal flu, …..we experience it every year,” said Matthew Miller, a microbiologist who studies viruses at McMaster University.

  • “The people most likely to die from seasonal flu are …….the elderly and the very young. The same is very likely to be true …….with this …… new coronavirus outbreak.

  • The people who are at highest risk …..are the people at the highest risk >>>> for any type of infection.”

There seems to be so much…. active disinformation spread,” said Falzarano. “Things coming out …. >>>> are just nonsense, ….. and then are picked up ….by the media.”

https://nationalpost.com/health/new-coronavirus-may-be-no-more-dangerous-than-the-flu-despite-worldwide-alarm-experts

Experts DAILY MAIL NATIONAL NEWSPAPER 10th Feb 2020


What does the virus do to you? …… What are the symptoms?

Once someone has caught the COVID-19 virus it may take between two and 14 days, or even longer, for them to show any symptoms.

The vast majority of patients – at least 97 per cent, ….. based on available data – will recover from these >>>> without any issues or medical help.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7987001/Death-toll-killer-coronavirus-10-TIMES-higher-average-Chinas-Hubei-province.html


SYMPTOMS A Runny Nose, Sore Throat, A Cough & A Raised Temperature & OVER 97% Fully Recover With NO Medical Help.

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yup, just look at my other response to this, it appears to me, just my opinion that you've not really researched this. I'm not going to argue with you, or anyone, I'm out. I hope you're right, and I hope should your concrete 'knowing' go wrong, that your words don't end up hurting those that believe them.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Read the other posts I posted, with the added info. on bacterial infections. Like I said, it cannot be COVID-19, it has to be something else, something weaponized for it to turn into a massive pandemic. And maybe it is, who knows, time will tell.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It kills people, yes, but very few, and I posted various sources to debunk the myth that COVID-19 is an apocalyptic event. If it is weaponized, which I admit, it could be, only time will tell, no?

Basically, many people aquire COVID-19 and recover form it 95%, with the 97% getting symptoms also recovering from it! That is a very small number indeed, and yet it still can kill, and is more lethal than the FLU. So I'd urge people:

  • Wash hands

  • and check if you have symptoms.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/coronavirus-contains-hiv-insertions-stoking-fears-over-artificially-created-bioweapon

By the way, it very well may be, this virus, a bioweapon. I'm going to read more about this.

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This well researched post with links, that I took the time to read makes far more sense to me, that the apocalyptic headines coming out of both corporate and alternative news networks, the latteramking thousands on their health supplements.

CARONAVIRUS IN PERPECTIVE;

linked in comment section here: https://beforeitsnews.com/health/2020/03/corona-virus-is-globalisms-death-not-its-rebirth-3013555.html


IMPORTANT – HOW DANGEROUS A VIRUS IS – IS NOT – TEST DISCOVERED INFECTIONS >> 95% >> HAVE NO OR NEGLIGIBLE…. SYMPTOMS

THE IMPORTANT FACTOR IS KILL RATE

CARONAVIRUS – KILL RATE

  • Real Figure – CHINA 0.0034

  • Real Figure – OUTSIDE China 0.0014

SO TINY – IT’S … INSIGNIFICANT & IRRELEVANT – IN VIRUS TERMS !! AND….

As you will see below – March 3, 2020 The World Health Organization on Tuesday announced among children and healthy adults the mortality rate is close to zero.

FULL EXPLANATION / CALCULATION


For Simplicity Just Using CHINA Numbers & Round Up – 80,000 Cases 3,000 Deaths + as you will see from experts below >>>> 10X known cases of INFECTED – But Not Recorded – As they NEVER Have Symptoms OR Too Mild To Notice.

  • Thats 800,000 UNRECORDED CASES

  • Revise NOW 880,000 Cases (Recorded + Unrecorded 10X more) With … 3,000 Deaths

  • Death rate 3,000 divided by 880,000 = 0.0034 or in percentage terms 0.34%

((0.0034 or in percentage terms 0.34%))

March 3, 2020 The World Health Organization on Tuesday announced


The illness has a much stronger chance of causing death…. in sick and elderly patients while among children….. and healthy adults ….. the mortality rate >>>> is close to zero.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/coronavirus-world-health-organization-announces-mortality-rate-has-jumped-to-3-point-4-percent/#slide-1

Death Rate OUTSIDE China


  • 67 divided by 47,000 (4351 + 43,500 10X As Many Unrecorded – Infected NO/Mild Symptoms) = 0.0014 or percentage 0.14%

((0.0014 or percentage 0.14%))

WHO Director-General’s…. opening remarks


As of 6am Geneva time this morning, Outside China, there are now 4351 cases>>>> in 49 countries, >>>>and 67 deaths.

https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19—28-february-2020

BBC U.K National News 02 March 2020


(214 Countries …..Or State Equivalents ….REPORT to The World Health Org.)

World Health Organization (WHO) Its chief, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said >>>> Of the 62 countries ….reporting cases…. of infection, 38 of them had >>>> 10 or >> fewer, ….. he added.

Of the nearly 8,800 cases outside China, >>> 81% are in >>> just FOUR countries – Iran, South Korea, Italy and Japan.

AND >> Around eight countries >>>> have not reported new cases >>> for two weeks. CHINA >> Hubei. The province has registered >>>more than >>> 90% of the global fatalities.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51712437


214 Countries Report To WHO – ONLY 62 HAVE REPORTED INFECTIONS….. & 38 OF THOSE >>>> LESS THAN ….10 CASES EACH

PUTS THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE DOESN’T IT – CARONAVIRUS >>> A TOTAL…. DUDD….OF A VIRUS built up on fearmongering. The questions then becomes do THEY, the media, know something we do not? COuld it be weaponized or might it just be propaganda, might they being propagandizing the perception of dread and fear to hurt Chinese Markets?

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Part 1

THESE ARE THE OTHER FACTS – THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO KNOW & WELL WORTH YOUR TIME

READ ON


An Opinion From A REAL – FULL MONTY QUALIFIED – WORLD EXPERT.

So MILD 95% Of Cases >>> WON’T EVEN NEED TO GO … TO A DOCTOR !!!

Lets Hear From Dr Craig Dalton is a public health physician and conjoint Associate Professor at the University of Newcastle, Australia.

He is a former CDC Epidemic Intelligence Service Officer and runs Flutracking.net one of the largest national surveillance systems …. for influenza-like illness in the world.

There are many countries with cases that haven’t ….. even detected their ….first cases yet. They may have ….thousands of cases…. Before…. the first case is detected. Because …most cases >>>> wont go to a doctor. In fact most likely >>> 95% >>> are mild

(allowing for surveillance biases towards more severe cases).

https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/48606151-craig-dalton/5413058-update-analysts-are-starting-to-understand-coronavirus

ANOTHER EXPERT; CARONAVIRUS – SO MILD – YOU WOULDN’T… FIND CASES WITHOUT ….. MASS TESTING & LOOKING FOR IT


(something the current CDC refuses to do when it comes to persistent bacterial infections that shareholders cannot make money off of!)

Marc Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology >>> at the Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health. He noted that Guangdong, a province in China, conducted surveillance.

  • testing of 300,000 people in fever clinics

  • to find about 420 positive cases.

“If you don’t look, you won’t find cases,” he said.

https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-test

REPEAT, They Had – TO TEST – Nearly 1/3rd Of A MILLION Chinese – To Scrape up JUST 420 (repeat 420) …. Positive Cases –

28 February 2020 >>> WHO Director-General’s…. opening remarks


As of 6am Geneva time this morning, China has reported a total of 78,959 cases of COVID-19 to WHO, including 2791 deaths.

Outside China, there are now 4351 cases>>>> in 49 countries, >>>>and 67 deaths.

Our greatest enemy right now ….is not the virus itself. …. It’s fear & rumours

The enemy is fear and rumours!

https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19—28-february-2020

REPEAT WORLDWIDE … OUTSIDE CHINA >>> A TINY TINY INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF …. TOTAL DEATHS >>> JUST 67.... BEING PREDOMINANTLY – THE USUAL _ THE OLD, – THOSE WITH SERIOUS UNDERLYING MEDICAL CONDITIONS – THE IMMUNO-COMPROMISED – AND THOSE ALREADY NEAR DEATH.

In contrast, in the US, the Centers of Disease Control estimate that so far for the 2019-20 season, as of 6 March 2020:

there have been at least…. 32 million flu illnesses, >>> 310,000 hospitalizations >>> and 18,000 deaths from REGULAR SEASONAL ANNUAL FLU . >>> in the U.S, which has population ……of 330 million……. about a quarter that of China.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

And there was virtually no coverage or concern regarding the Seasonal Flu,…… which in 2017 resulted >>>>> globally in 650,000 ….deaths!

https://www.globalresearch.ca/coronavirus-epidemic-who-declares-a-global-public-health-crisis-can-we-trust-the-who/5702360?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

Caronavirus by comparison


IN ADDITION FEB 25th RECOVERIES – ARE ALREADY SURPASSING ……the total number of …..daily new infections for the first time.

That occurred on February 19th, according to Johns Hopkins University tracking, when there were 439 new cases…. and approximately >>>> 1,800 recoveries.

The trend has continued since then >>> with fewer than 600 new confirmed COVID-19 cases each day >>>> and an even greater number ….of recoveries.

https://www.statista.com/chart/20943/new-daily-confirmed-covid-19-cases-and-recoveries

The Caronavirus PlayBook Is Already Written


It’s just a repeat of ……the H1N1 Swine Flu (SARS, MERS, BIRD FLU, EBOLA) – They All Run The Same – Fake Propaganda Virus Playbook And We Are – Just heading into – Chapter 2.

So How Did SWINE FLU H1N1 PANDEMIC END >>> Well …, At The End Of 18 months of Swine Flu – Fear Porn

  • The World Health Organisation WHO declared …. the pandemic over – & during the >>> 18 months it had killed JUST ..18,500 people globally

  • averaging the figures of lab confirmed deaths – from the 214 countries that report to the W.H.O >>>> That averages out at >>>> LESS THAN 90 (as in Ninety) …. Swine Flu Deaths Per Country!

In Hindsight The 18 months of relentless fear porn fake propaganda headlines were over ……an insignificant virus – Killing On Average …. Just 90 People – PER Country.

WHO's own website states:

6 August 2010 – As of 1 August 2010, worldwide… more than 214 countries and overseas territories or communities >>>> have reported laboratory confirmed cases …. of pandemic influenza H1N1 2009, including over >>> 18449 deaths.

LINK TO W.H.O. OFFICIAL WEBSITE Confirmation Of Above FACT.

https://www.who.int/csr/don/2010_08_06/en/

And – This CARONAVIRUS >>> Will Be A Repeat.


  • Caronavirus Took 2 Months/60 Days To Kill 2,400 (ie a TINY 40 Per Day) of old, sick, frail, immuno-compromised and already on their last legs Chinese

  • Up to 95% of Infected – Have Symptoms – So Mild – They Won’t Even Notice

  • and in most countries – hasn’t even reached a THOUSAND infected

  • Regular Annual Flu – Kills 88,000 …Chinese per year

  • 7 Million Chinese… Die Of All Causes Per Year

  • -vs- Caronavirus – UNDER 3,000 !!!

Rinse & Repeat VIRAL FEAR PORN


LETS GET AN OVERALL OPINION FROM EXPERTS – AT THE UK NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE (PUBLISHED IN A UK NATIONAL NEWSPAPER) – THE INDEPENDENT

28/Feb/2020 …. QUOTE….

“As a member of the public….. you might get… coronavirus but your chances…. of being ill …. and in hospital is not high. On a person …. by person basis >>>>>> IT IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT (

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-uk-deaths-nhs-intensive-care-flu-wise-men-protocol-a9361916.html

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Part 2

CANADIAN GOVERNMENT / HEALTH CANADA


“coronaviruses are common …..and are typically associated ….with mild illnesses, similar to the common cold.

Those who are infected with COVID-19 may >>>>have little to >>> NO symptoms.

You may… NOT KNOW ……you have symptoms ….of COVID-19 because they are similar to …. a COLD or flu.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/symptoms.html

The vast majority of patients who aquire the virus – at least 97 per cent, ….. based on available data – will recover from these without any issues ….. or medical help.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7987001/Death-toll-killer-coronavirus-10-TIMES-higher-average-Chinas-Hubei-province.html


Yes 2,400 Died Of Caronavirous in 2 months (60 Days) – An Average >>> Really VERY TINY >> 40 Deaths A Day

  • Seasonal Flu Kills An Average 88,000 Per Year (Caronavirus Has Managed 2,400)

  • 7 MILLION Chinese Die Per Year – Caronavirus Has Accounted For 2,400

And Studies/Reports State whilst there are only 80,000 Confirmed Infections – There Will be >>> 10X that number

  • 3/4 MILLION + with Symptoms SO MILD – they Won’t EVEN NOTICE THEM

Mainstream News


Already Macau CHINA , the world’s biggest gambling hub, …..will allow casinos to…. resume operations from…. February 20, after authorities imposed a two-week suspension to curb the coronavirus’ spread, authorities said on Monday,

Macau has not reported >>> any new cases of the virus>>> since February 4, … officials said (As At 20 Feb). There have been >>>> ONLY 10 … confirmed cases of the virus >>> in total there.

Government services, which had mostly been suspended since the start of February, have gradually resumed operations this week.

https://www.rt.com/newsline/481005-macau-casinos-virus-fear/

It’s All Over Folks 2,400 deaths and new cases plummeting, the recoveries surpassing them, is quitely ignored.

NB 10 February 2020 corporate BLOOMBERG news


The new coronavirus might have infected….. at least 500,000 people in Wuhan, ….the Chinese city at the epicenter of the global outbreak, …..by the time it peaks in coming weeks.

But most of those people…..>>>> won’t even know it.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-08/virus-outbreak-in-wuhan-may-soon-peak-with-more-than-5-infected

LOS ANGELES TIMES


Already posted but I'll post it again:

Thousands of people in China and elsewhere ….have been infected ….. but have had…such mild reactions that >>>> no one even noticed

~ said Dr. Tom Inglesby, director of the Center for Health Security at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-01-24/china-coronavirus-panic

The UK’s NATIONAL BBC News COMMENTS


FROM THE LARGEST STUDY TO DATE (The paper by the CCDC, released on Monday and published in the Chinese Journal of Epidemiology, looked at more than 44,000 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in China as of 11 February

  • So Known Infections Quoted In Study – 72,436 x 10 = 724,000 Who Will Have Had Symptoms – Too Mild – To Notice

  • ¾ Million

    Re The Known 72,436 infections

Scientists have estimated there could be …..10 times as many people infected ….. as are ending up in the official statistics.

That ALSO means the….. overall death rate IN THE REST OF CHINA (Outside Hubei) is likely to be lower than the 0.4% (rest of China) reported in this study (ie 10X LOWER – Making the death rate potentially ONLY 0.04)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51540981

So There’s Proof Of Precedence – How This Caronavirus Runs

TOTAL DECADES LONG FLU NARRATIVE – BE A LIE ??


Don’t Believe Everything You Read About Flu Deaths. The CDC’s decision to MASSIVELY play up flu deaths dates back a decade, when it realized the public wasn’t following its advice on the flu vaccine. And with COVID, they are also trying to pass off a vaccine. With bacterial infections like Borrelia, which causes far more disabilitating effects is ignored by the CDC!

During the 2003 flu season:

“the manufacturers were telling us that they weren’t receiving a lot of orders for vaccine, >>>> “It really did look like we needed to do something to encourage people >>> to get a flu shot.”

“Dr. Glen Nowak, associate director for communications at >>>> CDC’s National Immunization Program, told National Public Radio.

Here is the “Recipe that fosters >>>> influenza vaccine interest and demand,” in the truncated language that appears on his slides: “Medical experts and public health authorities [should] publicly (e.g. via media)

state concern and alarm (and predict>>> dire outcomes) – and urge influenza vaccination.”

This recipe, his slide show indicated, would result in “Significant media interest and attention … in terms that motivate behavior

(e.g. as ‘very severe,’ ‘more severe than last or past years,’ ‘deadly’).”

Other emotive recommendations included fostering:

“the perception that many people are susceptible to a bad case of influenza” and “Visible/tangible examples of the seriousness of the illness (e.g., pictures of children, families of those affected coming forward) and people getting vaccinated (the first to motivate, >>> the latter to reinforce).”

The CDC unabashedly decided ….to create ….a mass market for the flu vaccine by enlisting the media into panicking the public. They do this with all Viruses, but knowing they and the shareholders can not make money off of the 350,000 cases every year who come down with various strains of Borrelia infections which if left untreated cause life debilitating illnesses, ignored and diagnosed as something else, such as CFS or Fibromyalgia, well, they just hire shills and create front companies to attack patient advocacy groups. They even tried to pass a vaccine off, which killed people, and which they knew would not work on Borrelia, but had already invested millions into the program so falsified diagnostics to manufacture its efficacy.

An obedient and unquestioning media obliged by hyping the numbers, and 10 years later it is obliging still. This media having covered for the CDC and attacking Lyme and Borrelia patients, then randomly starts to HYPE the Borrelia numbers, pretending to be for truth and even pushing the Bioweapons angle just as another fradulent vaccine is coming out, that they know, an OSPA vaccine cannot work on antegenic variation. It's all bullshit and all about profit and fear porn.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-solomon/death-by-influenza_b_4661442.html

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Never said it was a Hoax, or that actors were involved.

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And to boot, the real target is the implosion of the markets, and ability to blame it on something, anything else. We're gonna see civil unrest, and more; many will beg for the planned solutions to all of this, and it'll be some real orwellian hum-dingers.... just my 2 pesos.

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Agreed. They're going to pin the upcoming stock market crash on the virus, not the 12 years of Fed policy that caused everything to be a giant bubble in the first place. How convenient for them.

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I'm telling everyone, they told us in 1988 to get ready for world currency in 2018, with a digital coin on the cover of the Economist. They said get ready w/ 2018 inscribed on the coin with all fiat currencies burning in the background, guess what, banks did get ready, at least BRIC banks, they stocked up on gold! 1988 + their magic masonic 33 = 2021. I'm think January of 2021, we will see a collapse.

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Don't forget systemic infections like Borrelia Burgdorferi and their strains, a slow death if not treated.

Corona Virus rarely kills and 95% of people recover from it.

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Weaponized infection is a different story. If you look on social media, everyone thinks Corona is out to kill us all, its not, but maybe just the perception of ignorants believing the media and government can cause a economic collapse.