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[–]proc0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Literal strawman. The issue is hiding information. If that didn't happen, maybe more people would consider taking the jab.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The issue is hiding information. If that didn't happen, maybe more people would consider taking the jab.

Hidden?

Who the fuck would assume that an mRNA vaccine hadn't been injected into a human cell as part of the development?

The whole thing works by utilising the resources and the chemistry of a human cell. Of course it's going to be developed using human cells. You don't have to announce the bleeding obvious to ensure that people know. Because it's bleeding obvious.

[–]proc0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It was denied it came from aborted fetal cells. Also, how is it obvious? Vaccines are traditionally injected into chicken eggs until this mRNA one.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pfizer used the HEK 293 line didn't they?

It's not known whether is was from an abortion or a spontaneous miscarriage. It's only known that the line derives from cells isolated in the Netherlands in the early 1970s. (And that they're embryonic kidney cells).

Traditional vaccines grow the virus in chicken eggs, before the protein that the immune system is to be trained to recognize is separated off the viruses. But you still test what happens in a human cell as part of the development, generally speaking. Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine is like that. And they used the HEK 293 cell line as part of the development.

But it's much more obvious in the case of the mRNA vaccines, because they don't do the chicken egg bit. The vaccine doesn't do anything until it is in a human cell, and then it generates the spike protein. You'd need to stick it in a human cell to see if it does what you hope, and makes the spike protein.