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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

It's more complicaated than this. Historically, every cosmopolitan gathering has been multicultural (by definition). "Social cohesion" is more likely in larger cosmopolitan areas than it is in smaller groups. What destroys social cohesion are insular groups that wish to prohibit mixed marriages (eg. white supremacists, orthodox and conservative Jews, orthodox Islam, conservative Hindus, traditionalist Japanese, traditionalist Chinese, etc. etc.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

This simply isn't true.

People didn't move around as much in the past, they didn't have the option to.

In the past urban centres were created from the people who lived in the countryside around them, which was the extent of their multiculturalism. The counties around London are even called the "Home Counties" for this reason.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I see your point, but my reference is to cosmopolitan gatherings. In periods when urban centers mixed with other people - travellers, slaves, nomadic groups, invaders, &c - they transformed and developed. These are the cosmopolitan gatherings to which I refer. Even if we look as far back as possible to modern humans, we see interbreeding as part of their practices: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding_between_archaic_and_modern_humans Studies have shown that mixed ethnicity people are often smarter and more attractive (eg. many in the US are mixed, even if we consider German/Irish people, who wouldn't inter-marry before WWI, but married thereafter because of the loss of men in the war. Perhaps this goes back to the Civil War). This mixing has happened worldwide.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You're changing the subject.

Such gatherings were not the norm in urban centres until recently and most progess happened outside of them because they were so rare.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So all of the osteoarchaeological evidence of the intermixing of traditinoally foreign individuals in urban centers is all wrong? Is this because the textbooks we use for this study were published in the 19th century? Yes, intermixing was not as common in rural areas as it had been in urban areas, but recent scholarhip has shown that there was much more mobility than previously thought, across every continent. Everyone's relatively mixed, the further back we look at their histories.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, it's "all wrong" because you're pulling it out of your ass. The average European is 100 percent European. The same is true for Asians, and Africans. Travel between continents only became geographically possible on the large scale in the 16th century as sea routes were opening between Africa and Eurasia, and ever since that time there has been nothing but conflict between the races.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is false. There are so many examples. For example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasions_and_conquests

And think of the mixture of people around the Mediterranean.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Invading armies aren't the same as migrants. Or are you admitting that mass migration is a form of biological warfare?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's one example. And yes, they traded people from what is now Poland and Eastern Europe, while also mixing with other Eurasian groups as far south as Italy. Human trafficking, invasions, trade, migrations, and many other engagements mixed ethnicities around the world, for 150,000 years. Europeans are defintiely mixedas are others around the Mediterranean. Perhaps you want to consider only recent generations. The US is a perfect example of the intermixing of ethnicities, or also Brasil.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It is terrible what happened to the Germans and the Irish.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Said my great grandparents.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Says many Irish and Germans.