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[–]turtlebam 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Porn is a weapon, it was used by the parasitic zionist terrorist gangs (otherwise known is israelis) against the Palestinians. The same owners of the biggest porn companies.

When the west bank was militarily occupied in 2002 in an uprising for liberty against jewish hordes in the parts of Palestine awaiting liberation since 1967, the zionists took over local broadcasting stations and started broadcasting porn to Palestinians in an attempt to sedate them

Tells you a thing or two about why porn is being pushed and now is mainstreamed.

https://en.everybodywiki.com/Ramallah_pornography_controversy

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Repression is unnatural, usually via ruling class over society, religion, etc.

Sex has been around a lot longer than porn or the Israelis. So has shame and psychological manipulation.

Sex is natural. Controlling yourself is natural. Moderation is natural. Balance is natural.

Problems occur when these are not maintained.

[–]turtlebam 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think you misunderstood what I meant. I do not disagree with what you just said.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't disagree. It seems we're additive.

[–]turtlebam 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

To be quite clear sex is natural and good. Porn is highly dangerous! High speed internet porn is quite dangerous and there are many studies on the subject, you can look up your brain on porn. The reason there are not more studies on the subject is for the same reason you do not find as much information as you would expect on the holocaust lies or the jewish bolsheviks crimes.

High speed internet pornography gives the addict an unlimited supply of novelty, ever increasing novelty, high doses of dopamine. Draining the victims brain and energy. It's probably the reason why so many men are so apathetic and let a bunch of cowardly kikes lord over them.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

" Porn is highly dangerous! "

Correction: Porn CAN BE dangerous! There are a LOT of circumstantial caveats for this to be true.

" you can look up your brain on porn "

I never will, and no one else may either until I'm dead and done with my brain. Why you'd want to see my grey matter spread over glossy images is anyone's guess. To each their own fetish I suppose.

I would settle for Universities teaching classes like Zionist History, Sabbatean Anthropology, Federal Reserve 101, Counter-Cultural Analysis, and Jewish Influence In The 20th Century.

I don't need novelty. I just want non-annoying porn. No fatties, no ugliness, no skanks, minimal or no plastic, etc. When they or something about them repulses me it becomes a chore. Because it is a chore, like with music, books, news, movies, etc. I find myself keeping my eye open for the higher quality stuff - thus I actually keep lists to follow up on.

I wouldn't say it's not A reason, but it's certainly not the only reason.

[–]turtlebam 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

LOL man, don't be too academically accurate. I am sorry, Yes, correction: Can be highly dangerous, apologies if my command of the language slipped.

By look up "Your brain on porn" I meant the work of Gary Wilson who has a book and a website on the subject. I hope that your brain remains in full capacity for the next hundred years and that no one will have to look it up :D

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Me: Drunk typing.

Readers: This guy's all over the road!

turtlebam: Added to /s/friends/

Gary Wilson: free books and audiobooks via https://DuckDuckGo.com/?q=Gary+Wilson+brain+porn

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

Interesting and insightful. A few things I hadn't considered. Yet I still love my porn.

Here's some new* ideas (* I haven't heard before):

  • Is there any way to acknowledge and appreciate superficiality yet remain realistic? (Comparatively all movies and television contain propaganda - even the mildest simply reinforces the "norms" and pros and cons of our cultures.)
  • Is there any good/helathy and/or moral/ethical porn worth promoting?
  • Are there ways to steer your drives? (Like CBT for sex.)
  • Are there good discussions we can have on SaidIt about porn and/or fetishes? (Only some specific kinds of fetishes/fantasies are most problematic.)
  • Could we develop a community to develop some simple self-help goals to better MANage ourselves?
  • Could we foster a wider movement to better the modern world realistically?

I know some of this might be tedious, academic, un-fun, or seemingly pointless in this era of monopolies and tyranny, but I suspect there might be something here worth fighting for. Furthermore, if we were to build up any kind of movement on SaidIt not limited to this topic, those people would be exposed to other truth-seeking ideas too.

I also realistically know that demanding 100% abstinence is ridiculous, especially with COVID-1984. Not all porn is the worst kind. I suspect there could be a balance. I also believe that frank discussions might help people control their subconscious drives better.

I'm especially curious to know what /u/Jesus and /u/magnora7 think on this issue.

[–]Bowiebow 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (10 children)

Abstinence isnt ridiculous it just takes time to train yourself and fight urges.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

All or nothing will not win many.

In my experience it's easier to just quickly rub one out and get back to concentrating clearly. It's just human biology - like taking a dump. No biggie. Unless it affects your views on the world.

[–]Bowiebow 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

I'd disagree there's a point after you've gone long enough where you're that level of clearheaded all the time. However it is extremely challenging while still thinking about sex. Best thing you can do is work up to a three month absitance and then make a decision from there

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Nah, fuck that in the porn hole.

[–]turtlebam 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Watching porn is probably the most popular addictive behavior, but it is an addiction none the less and quite harmful but because it's currently the opium of the people and quite useful for the kike parasites this truth is not wide spread.

People managed to do fine without porn, maybe more people would be married back then, but I can assure you the human being and man in particular can survive without a release! And you would be surprised the amount of energy and clarity you will have if you tried it, but it's not easy because porn is an addiction. You cannot concentrate without a release because I am afraid to say you are an addict. Like Bowiebow said, first try a three month and see if you still need to "rub one" but can you do 3 months? You would be surprised how addictive porn is and how hard it is to leave it.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Many drugs are far more addictive.

Porn is NOT an addiction for everyone.

Porn might be addictive for some boys in their teens and twenties - especially during lockdown.

Maybe more people would be married if the ruling class weren't exploiting us so much. Financial stress is among the leading reasons for break ups. There are dozens of other excuses too. Yes, including sex drives and/or porn. Let's not forget many of the manufactured expectations in society now with impossible standards for women to be sex objects and for men to be success objects - plus all the gender bending.

I can concentrate without a release, just like I can when sleepy. However, sometimes it's better to take a nap and come back clear minded.

Q: How much porn do you consider "addictive"?

  1. Once a month
  2. Once a week.
  3. Once a day.
  4. Four times a day.
  5. Once an hour.
  6. Four times an hour.
  7. Nonstop.

A: Judgemental bullshit.

Also EXTREMELY RELEVANT: Are you in a relationship with a normal/regular sex life?

[–]turtlebam 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I have nothing against normal relationships and sex. It's just that porn is actually far more addictive than people think and to top it all it's being recommended by doctors to avoid prostate cancer!

The problem with porn is that it is never as fulfilling as real sex, that's why many people will not moderate and like any addiction escalate. In addition it will give you a type of instant variety that you can never find in real life! I completely agree, that it won't have the same effect for everyone, drugs and addictions are highly personalized. Is it the most addictive drug ever? of course not, but I can assure you it's not just a release. If someone wants to engage in it, he must understand it's just like alcohol or any addictive substance if not more dangerous because it is quite underrated and has become widespread.

Porn is part of dopamine addictions, novelty seeking behavior and like any addiction you will find those who have had severe problems from it.

I would say the problem of pornography is too big that it is quite hard to do real studies on its effect because you will be hard to find those who didn't engage in it to compare.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

" The problem with porn is that it is never as fulfilling as real sex "

Correction: Not as fulfilling as a real relationship.

I've had unfulfilling sex with people, and odds are that I've disappointed some too. I know I haven't tried remotely as much with people I didn't care as much for, and I tried the most to please those who I wanted to want me.

Sex with love is almost ALWAYS better.

I'd be curious to know if they have studied Gen X before, during, and after the rise of internet porn, and how that compares and will compare to later generations who will have always been exposed to it. Perhaps Gen X who weren't so corrupted in their youth won't be so affected in our old age - or maybe we'll be worse for it than later generations.

Comparatively, I'd like America to ditch all the age limits on alcohol like Europe and beyond. (And/or decriminalize all drugs like Portugal.) Sure the first generations might abuse their freedom, but eventually it will be normalized and no biggie for most.

People who need to escape need help not with what they're escaping from FAR more than what they're escaping with. Spend more money on that than drug wars, censorship, and such.

IMO, you'd need to start broadly with many people to gauge their forthcoming honesty in order to select the best and drill down to their sexual experiences. Certainly this alone will bias the results, but at least you can try to establish an "honest" baseline ballpark to further develop. It's far from impossible.

[–]turtlebam 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

A lot of things can be improved if there is an actual intention, but I doubt governments want the true well being of their populations, besides, now we are moving into a completely new paradigm. I really can't wrap my head on how things will be in 10 years or what they have in store for us.

If you ask me, the reason drugs were banned was to jack up the prices and in the US to build the prison system institutes which is also highly profitable. CIA is of course highly involved in drug dealing. Governments all over the world just catch whoever isn't working for the big guys or who has been fatten up enough.

As you hinted, people do not become addicted due to a substance, but because it's an escape. Things are so messed up that everyone is an addict of some sort or to some degree.

You are correct, the more mature generations do not have it as bad as the young ones. Their brains have been developed before high internet speed pornography. I mean back in the days of VCR, if someone watched one or 2 new movies a week he was rolling! Now!! People have 20 tabs open at the same time and clicking for more. This makes a world of difference.

Kids these days, start on the most extreme types of porn when they are 12!! Their brains are a mess!

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Drug war was for:

  1. More police and militarizing it
  2. More prisons and slave labour
  3. Disenfranchise voters
  4. Excuse for international interventions (war)
  5. Covert funding
  6. Target poor communities
  7. Divide families and communities
  8. Harm minds and perceptions
  9. Maintain a monopoly on status quo reality
  10. More Machiavellian reasons...

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Don't forget about the toxic environment and soy milk turning the frogs and kids gay. Plus the confusing media messages about what is or is not appropriate behaviour. Macho men used to be admired. Maybe some were obnoxious and took it too far, but there's a balance. Besides selling tobacco, the Marlborough Man dint do nuffin, and most men would've wanted to be like him.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Yet I still love my porn.

Fuck yeah!

People who hate porn are weird. Like oh no ma'am I don't want to see your tits or fuck you, tips fedora.

[–]turtlebam 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Just to put the other "weird" side into the view. Those who do not like porn, do not like it because it is FAKE! It is pixel on a screen! It is not touching, feeling and bonding with a real woman!

Like monkeys, people will gravitate towards porn although it is fake because as you said it's tits after all, but it's fake!

Life can be lived differently, restraint is part of real manhood. There are a lot of dangers of porn, look up your brain on porn by Gary Wilson.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. Porn is performance. Few can hold their legs up like that while maintaining an adequate thrust while remaining hard, etc - much less enjoy that.

One thing that pisses me off about it is how little anyone talks about the enemas necessary for anal sex, much less anal play, A2P, etc. I can only guess how many poor girls/women have voluntarily "double dipped" and gotten sick or even harmed by simply emulating what's seen in porn.

It's less of a secret that many of the performers use anesthetics to endure the abuses (not even talking about the extreme and rough stuff) and that many of them suffer tears and such.

IMO, porn stars are essentially a cross between fashion models and stunt people - but still just pretty meat for hire.

Movies and TV and politics are no less fake - AND they can alter your perceptions too.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Not only that, I've never had a girlfriend who didn't like porn too. I was NOT always the first to introduce it into our relationship. Some were curious but shy and needed me to be there for their first and some had their own plans for me. Some we used it often, and some barely at all. Some even none at all because we were too busy fucking in weird places. Half of them were before the internet blew up (we actually rented it). Some were after.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

My wife hates porn. It's weird, I don't really understand it.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

That's 3 cans of worms that I don't want to open up: you, your wife, and your relationship.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Probably for the best. People keep telling me I'm insane and an asshole. If enough people say the same thing there has to be some truth to it.

I feel bad, I can't help who I am. I'm not trying to be bad, I'm just drawn that way.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not a mad genius, I'm just drawn that way.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Hah, I was wondering if anyone would know what that was from.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I started animation at college shortly after that came out.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Like I said yesterday though, people might like me now but they'll string me up later. Just watch.

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    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I had my share of pussy and/or relationships. I even found "the one". 2007 was my best year. I lost all that, and more, and a dozen years to Big Pharma poisons. I just turned 50 and now look like Santa. It'd be one thing if I grew fat and old with Mrs. Claus, but I didn't and I have no intentions of hooking up with a Mrs. Claus. Was/am I spoiled? I can admit it. Must I settle and be miserable? Fuck no. I'm realistic. No one stays young and sexy, not even me.

    Is life over? Not yet. First I need to re-establish myself with some kind of career. If I can't be a sex object I might be able to be a success object. Perhaps then I might have a chance for some quality tail and relationship(s). I've had enough bad to know I don't want more just to get some.

    At least I had my day in the sun. Many people will never ever be physically attractive, and that's not on them. But they need not be denied the proxy of porn.

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      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      Know any hot young women who dig old wise men? I could loose the weight soon enough if it were worth it.

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        [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Been losing it since a little before that photo this summer, slowly. I'll be back in better form soon enough.

        Most people, including hoes, are brainwashed and broken. Pickings are slim, especially when they feel entitled, are unrealistic, and don't realize they're not all that and a bag of chips. When they're my age they've got baggage/kids that would be finer on most levels.

        I'm not dead or stupid or hopeless yet, but prospects aren't good, and I'm not hunting for drama.

        [–]peety 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        so what!?!

        big fucking deal. why is there always somewhere, someone is manufacturing fake outrage? people don't always trust other people. men, women, so what. get over it.

        [–]SmallPP 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        Break away from Porn for it is a destructive weapon that ROBS you and WILL bring God's wrathful judgment upon you.

        [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Fuck the God myth and all that unnecessary oppression. I can be very ethical without a self-centered hypocritical wrathful loving fictional superstition.

        God is either all powerful and doesn't give a shit or cares for us but is impotent. (The Epicurean paradox.)