30min bodycam video - George Floyd

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[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (32 children)

Cold blooded murder. They knew he was having a cardiac arrest. ... You would have to be brain dead not to understand this as a medical emergency.

They killed him, one less criminal off the streets for them.

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    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (30 children)

    It is murder. If you take someone in custody, and that person is having a CLEAR AS DAY medical emergency going on and you continue with the arrest as if nothing is happening... You are in fact killing that individual...Forget about niggers and Floyd for a second. There are thousands of reports and now videos of people having different kind of strokes and temporary manic episodes being maltreated by the US police officers, being shot and killed and tasered to death.

    They SHOULD have waited for the ER to get Floyd's vitals before proceeding with this manhandling faggotry.

    Struggles against the police, who are trying to let him be on the ground

    Oh, the CAPITAL offense of struggling for breath when you're in a death spiral.

    Save your karma, "retard", no one is immortal.

    [–]slushpilot 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    They SHOULD have waited for the ER to get Floyd's vitals before proceeding with this manhandling faggotry.

    How would you suggest the medics take his vitals if he is resisting and squirming and flailing all over the place when they get there? Shoot him with a tranquilizer dart or a taser? I think that would just kill him quicker at this point.

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

    Oh come on, the mental gymnastics you people produce...The dude sat at one point next to a wall and thanked them. There are police and emergency response procedures. How do you think they deal with mentally ill homeless people...you think they shoot them with darts?

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Lmfao he was tweaking out and 6'6" why tf would they not keep him in full restraint? Tests have been conducted on Chauvin's technique and it exterts AT MOST 105 lbs of pressure, which isn't enough to suffocate or cause damage as the autopsy clearly shows.

    How about this, we find a large convict and give him shit tons of meth and release him in your house. Have fun "putting him against a wall" and talking him down his chemically induced psychosis. And you're accusing others of mental gymnastics?

    And again, this motherfucker WAS ABOUT TO FUCKING DRIVE. Had he splattered grandma and then hit a tree, it wouldn't even make the evening news and you wouldn't even give a shit.

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

    Any more fantasy land scenarios about big black dudes, or that's it? He wasn't tweaking but tripping. If they just left him sit next to a wall, he could have lived....So he might have had, there was a slight chance of DUI manslaughter...I'm sure you or your grandma never drove drunk...But kill him for it, right, he had it coming, vigilante ad hoc justice, judge dredd style world....No thanks, fuck that Godless dystopia!

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    I never once mentioned race. Lmao and you're over hear downplaying drunk driving. Fucking cool dude.

    This is why the Enlightenment was a mistake and led to a lot of stupid conclusions. Most humans aren't rational and can't be "won" with LOGiC and ReASoN! They're worthless wastes of oxygen who do nothing but drag everyone else down.

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    I asked you, what is the logical solution for arresting people while DUI according to YOU and what Reason would you employ for it...

    Let me help you with this, cos God knows you need help:

    A) Stop them, issue commands. If any objections to those commands arise, SHOOT THEM DEAD!

    B) Stop them, issue commands. If there are no objections to those commands, but a person is experiencing odd behavior, asking for assistance. SHOOT THEM DEAD OR PUT THEM IN A CHOKEHOLD until they can resume following the commands.

    C) Issue commands and then use God given judgement and hopefully proper training to assess the individual situation, case by case and respond accordingly. Be professional and courteous, actually earn your public servant salary.

    Choose carefully

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Issue commands and then use God given judgement and hopefully proper training to assess the individual situation, case by case and respond accordingly. Be professional and courteous, actually earn your public servant salary.

    Lmfao very precise language. Good job.

    What is "proper training" if George drives the fuck off? Did you think about this for more than 10 seconds or are you retarded on top of being a partisan fuckwit?

    Dumbfuck, you can't just insert the phrase "proper training" as a silver bullet to make everything rainbows and unicorns. And don't fucking tell me it's to sit him down and drink tea; as if every junkie ever just relaxes and doesn't spaz out. You're not fucking living in reality and don't understand that at times force is needed in law enFORCEment.

    [–]cynical_americano 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Most humans aren't rational and can't be "won" with LOGiC and ReASoN!

    you're responding to a die-hard Christian who thinks "all the answers you've been handed at your birth already..." referring to the bible/Christianity. Logic doesn't apply in his mind.

    [–]cynical_americano 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    the mental gymnastics you people produce...

    ironic coming from the king of mental gymnastics.

    [–]slushpilot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    In case it wasn't clear, I was suggesting that shooting him with a dart would be ridiculous. I believe the police were following the right procedure by keeping his ass under restraint so he could get sedated and helped as soon as the paramedics arrive. Did you see how long he was struggling against those handcuffs while they had him pinned down? That definitely looks like a delirious response and they did the best they could for him.

    They also wanted to let him sit in the back of the squad car, and even offered to roll the windows down for him. He had that option but started fighting them and suggested he wants to lie down at that point.

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    He told them nicely that he was claustrophobic. The dude was experiencing death, drug induced, but never the less..."He was fighting them"...More like begging for mercy and help. WHERE do you see FIGHTING? They were manhandling him and all he did was trying to grasp some air. And what happened, all of them officers are begging their gods now for mercy, and help. Sheeet, lessons learned I hope.

    [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Can I ask you about something?
    Are you against affirmative action where whites are being discriminated against on the basis of their skin color?

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I dunno what that has to do with this video, but imo all official actions based solely on the color of one's skin are retarded.

    [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    but imo all official actions based solely on the color of one's skin are retarded.

    Is there a context where discriminating against people with white skin color is okay?

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    no

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      [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

      If he's saying "Please, I can't breathe, please man, just let me catch my breath", you don't put him on the ground and sit on his neck, no, that's not the procedure.

      I don't understand , are you people all retarded or just pretending negative IQ?

      [–]cynical_americano 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

      because criminals never lie, especially in that exact manner to get a chance to escape. i haven't seen/heard the exact same thing despite it being obvious they can breathe on at least 20 other videos in the last month or so alone. big logic in that enlightened head over there.

      [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      He was a "suspect", not a criminal. Only a judge can label him a criminal after he has seen all the evidence for his alleged crime. The police in US, not all not all, but in great numbers automatically assume that the party who they are approaching are criminals and therfor dangerous. it's a cowards way of policing and a major role in why so many innocent people die every year due to their malpractice (bad policing)...and they are mostly Caucasian victims too. ... But, you already know all of this and are just playing the devils advocate.

      [–]cynical_americano 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      He was a "suspect", not a criminal.

      no, he was literally a convicted criminal with a lengthy criminal history. he was a suspect for that investigation at the time, but due to his lengthy criminal history they had good reason to make certain assumptions (like a higher likelihood of lying to cover-up a crime).

      Only a judge can label him a criminal after he has seen all the evidence for his alleged crime.

      a judge, or judges, have deemed him as such. on one occasion for banishing a firearm and threatening to shoot a pregnant woman in the stomach.

      before you try, yes, the officers did know he was a convict as they were familiar with him from previous encounters in the same area.

      But, you already know all of this and are just playing the devils advocate.

      right back at ya

      [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      None of that matters. Cops are supposed to bring in mass murderers alive if possible, the same as innocent people they kill in custody all the time.

      It is supposed to be a part of their job. Just watching the tape, all the cries for help and saying he can not breathe...

      If your father was on meds, erratic behavior, stopped and was not complying...Would you want him treated like this?

      My suspicion is they had no idea who he was and what his wrap sheet was. Show me the proof of that they knew his record or even that they thought he was a flight risk...or any of your assertions in this regard?

      All the time I see people gunned down, choked to death by cops. This is not a unique case. Policing in US needed a huge reform years ago.

      [–]cynical_americano 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Show me the proof of that they knew his record or even that they thought he was a flight risk

      all the answers are in that bible you preach about, you said so yourself. why should i provide anything when it was already provided for you in that book?

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        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Just have him sit up next to a wall https://youtu.be/XkEGGLu_fNU?t=227 or a car wheel tire... Why are you continuing to engage me with this?

        Just ask yourself what position would you place your brother if he was saying he can't breathe, having a cardiac arrest...Would you kneel on his neck, twist his wrists behind his back before the ER arrives?!

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