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[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

It's super weird to me how the poles change every 11 years on the sun like a clock. And no one really has the faintest idea why.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

maybe because of global warming..........on the sun...not on earth....i dont think they recycle on the sun

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Investigate the electric universe theory. They're definitely on to something.

The existing gravitational model of the universe fails to account for most of the energy that's observed. Gravity cannot account for much of what is observed in space, so they conjured up a new source that has no basis in observable reality.

[–]cablack 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

if they called it the electric universe conjecture (or even a hypothesis), they would be taken more seriously. Because a lot of science (and mathematics) begins with a conjecture (a hunch), that then gets studied and becomes a hypothesis that then gets tested and becomes a theory that then gets proven and becomes a law.

If you start out by calling it a theory, scientists know you are not one.

Edit: Rebuttals are invited that stay in the top three tiers of the pyramid of debate.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

conjecture

You're confused about what theories are, and how they are formed. A thorough understanding of a phenomena isn't required for a theory.

  • Evolution wasn't understood
  • Gravity isn't understood

The requirement for any theory is that it is testable.

If you start out by calling it a theory, scientists know you are not one

It is a theory. Your argument was conjecture.

Edit: It's also similar to plasma cosmology but holds that the plasma electric phenomena also works in between individual stars, solar systems, galaxies, etc.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

a theory that then gets proven and becomes a law.

No. Laws are emergent properties of models. Laws are always laws, but they're conditional on the theory. Theories don't become laws and are then immutable; Newton's Laws describe a theory that has been shown to not correctly predict reality, yet they're still called "laws".

Nothing in science is ever proven. If somebody tells you that "science proves" something, chances are that their evidence is flimsy at best and they're trying to create false authority to back up a position or idea that, deep down, they know is wrong.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah dark matter and dark energy do not make a lot of sense. However dark matter does seem to be able to be localized (there are pockets of space with high gravity with no corresponding mass). But dark energy... which they say the universe is 90% made of, is basically just a way to explain the accelerating expansion of the universe (things being red-shifted more the farther away they are), as far as I understand it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gravity makes most sense in the theory of a fluid universe. Even more if one imaginages the fluid as some kind of soup that gets constantly stirred with a (((invisible cooking spoon))).

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The poles are changing on Earth, as well.

They appear to be converging, and accelerating in their movement.

Their direction of movement continues, then that would converge near Indonesia.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c7f0ba3883371bda0ffde9cc44d294b8

I've read that the North pole on Earth is moving faster and faster too. And we're "overdue" for a pole flip on earth, it's been like 800k years without one and on average they last 200k years or something like that.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting, I've never seen a south pole one before. Thanks!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's the death clock.