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[–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

wonder if this guy knows how wide his work is spread. He's one of the few people i have come across who groks the big picture of climate.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

By "big picture of climate", do you mean including cosmic, geopolitical scientism, both, and/or something else?

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

what do you care? You can't fuck it.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I care because I thought I could engage you in conversation that was actually stimulating in a different way.

If you can't handle intellectual discourse then I won't bother you again over heady topics.

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I'm guessing you're familiar with Bob.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Sideshow Bob who? There has been this boy, following me around, paying me lots of attention. He's filled up my messages with sweet nothings. I still haven't responded to them all yet. Sweet nothings, like, really, nothing, like, as if someone with nothing in their head couldn't come up with anything and wrote nothing down. And then in class he dips my hair in the inkwell and sometimes calls me names - but I know he likes me because he follows me around. You wanna know a secret? I'm not gay. But sometimes I put on this little voice and let him think I am and that he's even got a chance. Everyone likes to flirt and get attention and feel needed and important. So I amuse him and I amuse myself until we're spent and exhausted, our heaving bodies collapsed over our keyboards...

I don't think M7 wants us mating though.

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Yo...

I was not expecting that.

Hmmm...

Put yourself in M7's shoes for a moment.

A) Someone complains about harassment for whatever reason.

B) He looks into the complaint, and has to read two or three of these.

C) It turns out that you were "in the right" and didn't break and community guidelines.

D) However, he still had to read two or three of these.

This has to affect his perception of you.

I think it's hilarious, cause I appreciate cringe comedy. What you just wrote is hilarious. Fucking hilarious.

I would probably find it less hilarious, if enraged people were complaining to me about this, and I was simultaneously trying to encourage people to join this community.

Just saying.

I reread your message. It's fucking hilarious. And it's stated in a way that makes it extremely difficult to respond to.
The only decent response option is to go high road, and respectfully ask you to stop making gay inferences any them.
This is also the least satisfying option, cause they're enraged and want to kick your ass.

You may want to ease up on this type of response. There's a public shaming aspect to this that's rarely discussed.
It will be difficult for some folks to forgive/forget this even if it's a joke.
Cause the joke is on them...

Give them an out. An opportunity to save face.

Unfortunately, that's also the most boring option for you.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

joke's on me?

maybe. or maybe i'm just getting the degenerate freak to type out his sex-orientated deviancy as much as possible in order to be able to keep reporting him to Magnora7, because the pervert just cannot help himself.

just encouraging the dude to keep taking the rope. Publically. no messages.

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Ha! Do you disagree with what I said?

The shit is hilarious.

joke's on me?

Not you specifically, but whomever is on the recieving end.

Most dudes aren't interested in publicly dueling out a gay version of 50 shades of grey.

It's over the top. That shit has me laughing out loud.

just encouraging the dude to keep taking the rope. Publically. no messages.

Bro. You shouldn't take it personally. In spite of the fact that it's intentionally intimate, and homoerotic.

If someone goes on a personal attack, then point out their underhanded response, declare victory, and move on. It'ss the only dignified strategy.

JC is hardcore 9/11 truther and he'll spread the facts till the end of time if the conversation continues.
The victims and veterans deserve justice, and he's a voice that won't shut up.

The good with the bad, and all.

Try to laugh at the nonsense, bro. It's impossible to imagine it's even plausible.

It's comedy. ;-)

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I told you he's stalking me.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

maybe it is hilarious if you find creeps getting their junk out in girls' faces. Personally, I think the dude is a degenerate pervert who needs to grow up and shut up, but whatever. Sexual harassment is so saidit, amirite?

So i'll keep pushing his buttons, until magnora7 gets pissed off enough with reading through Jasonthe pervert's filth to do something about it.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I didn't expect this breakdown but I greatly appreciate it!

You made some fantastic points actually. While good, I'm not sure you're directly over the target as M7 only touches on these but dwells on me portending to have some kind of "authority". Got a take on that?

And I appreciate that you appreciate it, finally someone gets it, a little of what I've done on a few occasions. Granted all the other stuff was all true while the above example was exaggerated and fictional riffing. What wasn't different was that it, just like my other "controversial" stuff, was all creative, fun, upbeat, never negative, and by the rules. I suspect if Sideshow saw it he'd have a cow, man.

I'm not trying to justify anything so much as explain a little... After ignoring countless examples, when I actually chose to engage some extremist post or comment, I'm never aiming to destroy. I try to engage, point out the judgmental hypocrisy, etc and flip the script, but in civil ways. I'm not here to start fights, that's child's play. But I also don't like walking away from perceived injustices either, or when someone leaves themselves open to improvement, or expresses bias, bigotry, etc. - and it's especially hard to resist when they lie about you or something else - or keep coming after you virtually begging for more. Also, unless it's a private message, I'm never just talking to one person anticipating more eyes will see it, whether it explodes in drama or not - therefor I write to educate and/or entertain, as best I can.

I certainly don't envy M7's position. Having to read my creative writing might be a chore, I suppose, to some. I certainly don't engage in such anti-judgementalist campaigns very often in the grand scheme of things. I assume we're having fun when it comes to bantering responses. I certainly wouldn't expect to swear at someone and not have them answer. As per your request, yes indeed. I have been taking the high road, but I need to go higher, and not get all gay (responding to their faggot this and faggot that nonsense). It's also not fair to authentic gay people, tho all the ones I know wouldn't give a shit. Nonetheless I should refrain just as I do from racsist taunts, which actually do bother people I know.

As far as "kicking my ass", it's not gonna happen, intellectually or in real life. They might think I'm something like Him from The Powerpuff Girls, but I actually look like Grizzly Adams, (but Dan is 6'1" and I'm just 6'0"), with much longer hair and a long white beard, as if Gandalf and ZZ Top had a bohemian brother in Canada. I'm all about non-violence with self-defence when necessary. Fortunately no one goes for me because I'm tall but never so big to be a trophy for those with something to prove.

"There's a public shaming aspect to this that's rarely discussed." What do you mean?

The best opportunity to save face is to admit wrongs, IMO. I try my best to be first to admit them when I find them, have them pointed out, or get turned to it. I suspect there are more viewpoints that I need to see, to either turn me to that view, or at least appreciate and respect as valid.

I just had an epiphany. The having fun while doing it, can be misconstrued as "making fun of" rather than "having fun with". This summer, during M7's meltdown over the /s/HolocaustSkepticism, half way through I realized it would all be so much simpler if all "fun" were completely forbidden on that sub, as I'd seen referencing another site. Sadly by that point the avalanche was already well in progress. Anyway, by literally taking the fun out of it, maybe it could simplify it. Is that what you meant by "the most boring option for you"? If so, thank you. If not, thank you anyway.

Indeed, levity has its time and place. And now I suspect I could be misinterpreted as making fun of people who make fun of freaks - perhaps also a little hypocritical, were they to think it was at their expense rather than their enlightenment. Ultimately, at the very least I finally realize I need to tone it down in order to not appear hypocritical, and really it'd just be far simpler to remove subjective humour entirely. A sad realization indeed. Sadder still were SaidIt to become a humourless forum. On the other hand, it would cut down on a monster load of timesuck memes.

Zzzzzzz.

So, I just had a sleep. I left all this in an open tab, to recheck my sleepy work before submitting such a long rant (it was longer). Here's the best part...

I had another epiphany waking up today! Sort of. Obviously the powers that be are determined to divide the people they rule over by what ever means possible. This means making pornography a free speech issue. This means flipping from letting gays die of AIDS to presenting normal gays on TV in the 90s. This means importing refugees and immigrants while capitalism stomps their countries with bombs and economics. I understand how disruptive "different" things being introduced can be - so I honestly believe people trying to defend their way of lives, their communities, their morality, etc. and all have legitimate reasons to be racist and anti-gay if they want to be. That doesn't mean I agree with them at all, but I can sympathize - and I can try to respect them a little more.

It's not much of an epiphany. And it doesn't really change much for SaidIt or how I behave. But all this thinking out loud helped sharpen the focus of my issues on here: intolerance, intolerance of intolerance, name-calling, and fun-having. Alone or together, perhaps these are worthy of future discussions (maybe after things cool down a bit, if ever).

Or discuss now... thoughts?

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

M7 only touches on these but dwells on me portending to have some kind of "authority". Got a take on that?

You're a mod.

I'm not. For this very reason.

I understand how disruptive "different" things being introduced can be - so I honestly believe people trying to defend their way of lives, their communities, their morality, etc. and all have legitimate reasons to be racist and anti-gay if they want to be. That doesn't mean I agree with them at all, but I can sympathize - and I can try to respect them a little more.

I agree with the sympathy part. Maybe empathize.

Racism and anti-gay bias are symptomatic reactions to other issues. IMHO.

The person still deserves human dignity, but that's different.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

jesus wept. TMI you freak

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

sharing your deviancy is intellectuAL for you?

Guess you skipped logic, philosophy, ethics, science, politics, etc, at school.

Why do you think that I would think, even for a moment, that you'd engage in a conversation without taking the opportunity to tell me about what you do with your cock? Again?