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[–]i_cansmellthat 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (1 child)

Thanks for putting this together, looks awesome and can't wait to dive into it.

[–]oldaccount29[S] 2 insightful - 1 funny2 insightful - 0 funny3 insightful - 1 funny -  (0 children)

You are welcome. :)

I like to be able to talke to people about politics, and actually be effective, which is hard to do, because people are subconsciously waiting for something they can use to dismiss everything else you say.

In order to counter this, I be very very conservative (not politically lol) with my claims in a conversations, only things I can back up.

People will still be very suspicious though, so I use a few techniques. The first thing I do is IF I have the ability to show them a source, I make a more outlandish claim,that I know they are almost certain to doubt, and then, when they express doubt, I show them the evidence.

For example, I might talk about how the US Government uses propaganda on its own people and that the CIA works with hollywood to alter movies to fit their desires, as does the US Military.

I know most people will have trouble believing that. So I show them something like this:

Carl Bernstein (of Woodward and Bernstein) wrote an article for Rolling Stone on how the CIA had significant influence over journalists in the US. http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

"On television, we found more than 1,100 titles received Pentagon backing – 900 of them since 2005, from ‘Flight 93’ to ‘Ice Road Truckers’ and ‘Army Wives’" "These included blockbuster franchises such as Transformers, Iron Man, and The Terminator." "When we include individual episodes for long running shows like 24, Homeland, and NCIS..." https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hollywood-cia-washington-dc-films-fbi-24-intervening-close-relationship-a7918191.html

"Meet the Parents. The CIA admitted that it had asked Robert De Niro’s character not possess an intimidating array of agency torture manuals."

"They were still able to derail a Marlon Brando picture about the Iran-Contra scandal (in which the US illegally sold arms to Iran) by establishing a front company run by Colonel Oliver North to outbid Brando for the rights,"

"On Hulk...disassociating the military from the gruesome laboratories that created “a monster” and changing the codename of the operation to capture the Hulk from “Ranch Hand” to “Angry Man”. Ranch Hand had been the name of a real chemical warfare programme during the Vietnam war."

(also zero dark thirty) https://theconversation.com/washington-dcs-role-behind-the-scenes-in-hollywood-goes-deeper-than-you-think-80587

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2008/nov/14/thriller-ridley-scott

And one last thing, this is a bit more on the unsubstantiated side (I think its true) Appearently Anderson Cooper of CNN never when to any kind of school for Journalism, but he WAS interned at a company that was a CIA front. (which doesnt make him a CIA agent of course, but its intriguing.)

Most people will be very surprised by this. And it only takes one or two facts like this for them to be very cautious about dismissing any claims I make.

So anyways, I like to compile large lists of high quality links on a single subject that I can link to when needed. Thus this thread. Now I know I dont need to be cautious when discussing this subject, because if someone challenges me, it would take thirty seconds to shoot their argument out of the water.