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[–]Zapped 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Please read my unedited comment above and tell me where it contradicts this.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Wouldn't 40 pounds of greens (such as romaine lettuce) contain roughly 200 grams of sugar?

[–]Zapped 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

How much fiber and protein are in that? How does that affect blood sugar/hormone levels as opposed to straight sugar?

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is the crux of it all. In nature sugar has to be extracted from fibrous sources which means you need to eat a lot of the source material to get a usable amount of sugar. That is most likely why we evolved to get more hungery and eat far more when we consume sweet food.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Aren't you arguing that fiber has some sort of magical role in the body? Couldn't you just extract the relevant polyphenols and consume them alongside the sugar? Isn't arguing for a zero-sugar diet pretty much just rejecting the evidence that every great ape consumes massive amounts of sugar?

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Aren't you arguing that fiber has some sort of magical role in the body?

No.

Isn't arguing for a zero-sugar diet pretty much just rejecting the evidence that every great ape consumes massive amounts of sugar?

No.

If you are trying to lose weight then eating sugar is counter productive because your body will react by making you more hungery and over consume.

Nothing about that statement is false, nor does any of your categorization apply.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Couldn't you simply eat precisely the amount of sugar that your body needs for metabolic function? Isn't there really a whole lot going on with satiation besides sugar? Mightn't you be conflating sugar with grains just a teensie bit a la donuts, cookies, cake, cereal, etc?

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Couldn't you simply eat precisely the amount of sugar that your body needs

If people could than they would, but they can't so they are fat.

Isn't there really a whole lot going on with satiation besides sugar?

Sure there is more, but that does not mean this sugar effect is not very powerful.

Mightn't you be conflating sugar with grains just a teensie bit a la donuts, cookies, cake, cereal, etc?

No. Most of those products are loaded with sugar.

Even though carbs are complex sugars they likely wont have the same affect on apetite because they are not naturally found in high fiber foods.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Isn't blood sugar just energy for the body that gets stored as glycogen in the liver if unused?

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Doesn't excess sugar get stored as fat throughout the body once the liver stores are full?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Doesn't 200g - 400g of sugar pretty much entirely fulfill the body's metabolic needs for a day?