New research suggests psychedelic drugs can be almost as life altering as near-death experiences

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[–]iamonlyoneman 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

shocking report: Things that open unknowable parts of the mind have drastic effects

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Also, importantly, if you can recognize that you're not as clever when tired or when you first wake up, you have diverse emotions and mood swings, you're not always correct, the corporatocracy often lies to you, that you can get inebriated on chemicals that affect your thinking - then there's a good chance that religion and afterlife is bullshit all in your mind.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

The "classical" Christian-influenced afterlife is bs. There is no tunnel and no heaven.

I'm not sure if there is a hell, or maybe life on this planet itself is hell. But every time I had a near-death experience: There never was a tunnel with light or this usual anecdotal bs.

There were ravens circling above my head and the sky was all diffusely "dark" lit with no feeling of gravity itself. My teeth I then took out crumbled like sand one time, e.g.

But I neither saw a light nor a tunnel so far.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Even if you did have some near-death dream-like experience, to my point, when there are so many ways the mind can self-trick, there's no need to believe it was actually real - or that there's some mythical creator or sky God that gives a shit.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The only difference between NDE's and some "hard" trips, I honestly can differentiate, is that I always knew when I was tripping because I could remember eating the mushrooms from my stomach rumbling.

But effect-wise considerate the experiences themselves were often very similar when the trips went "bad".

The human brain is excellent in tricking itself. Otherwise, we weren't able to bear all this schizophrenic utter nonsense happening right now out there.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The human brain is excellent in tricking itself. Otherwise, we weren't able to bear all this schizophrenic utter nonsense happening right now out there.

And there's no shortage of people who are certain they are correct, when obviously not.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They are called "sheeple" for a reason. Walking to the slaughterhouse voluntarily. With a smile, so to say.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

New and awesome: You can be good as almost-dead without risking your life!!!! Try now!

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

This is an experience which is part of many rituals of "manhood" in those human cultures that still live in small tribes. Those without all these more "modern" beliefs. Becoming a wage-slave and such... You know.

It absolutely isn't "bad" per se. I wouldn't want to miss most experiences I had under the influence of psychedelics. Some advice on them would have been nice, though.

It also surely isn't "new". In my eyes, it is pure human nature to search for fringe experiences.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

rituals of "manhood" in those human cultures that still live in small tribes

Doesn't mean they understand what they are doing...

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Some of these tribes have done this for centuries. I think they got a pretty good idea.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You underestimate the ability for primitive humans to do things they don't understand for no logical reason ever...

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Isn't that exact the same thing all those chingchong-addicted kids do hanging in front of their smartphones every free minute ?

Short-feedback-loops is the secret ingredient.

Human behavior is easily controllable by feeding their short feedback loops.

Like Pawlows dog. Push a button -> instant reward. This principle pops up often in a lot of very paradox (but nonetheless typical) patterns in human behavior.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

In case this is the underlying question: yes I think there are tons of primitive humans in today's modern society.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Such tribes are more collectivist than the west. They often literally cut down the tall poppies in their groups.

Their ideal is you become get more of a wage slave mindset not less.

It's no coincidence the new interest in psychedelics are lead by corporate managers rather and small business owners.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They simply could have asked me... :)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I was talking to some one about this yesterday. They used to do drugs, did acid one time, and they will now use socially, but really dosent touch them other wise.