Scientists propose adding psychoactive drug to our water supplies

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[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I'm thrilled to have iodine, no argument there. However:

https://www.nature.com/articles/ejcn2013127

It should be pushed in vitamin form or within fortified foods before pushed into the water supply. I'm also very pro-if someone wants to self-own, therapy should be offered along with treatment if necessary.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

...Yes. You don't just blindly apply these things. Curiously excess iodine intake in Japan, for example in seaweed, is actively counteracted by other elements of diet that inhibit uptake of iodine. Cultural traditional foods have a tendency of, over long periods of time, adapting to be able to consume foods toxic or poison. But that's besides the point - the iodine in the water discussed are in levels far in excess of safety. Nobody is talking about that kind of thing for lithium, nor is it deliberate supplementation.

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

From the article:

Studies have also associated trace amounts of Lithium in groundwater on the one hand and lower rates of violence and Alzheimer’s disease on the other (Schrauzer and Shrestha, 1990; Young, 2011, Mauer et al., 2014). However, the present article focuses primarily on Lithium’s potential suicide-prevention effects.

Ok, anything that has an effect on the human body that is added to their food or water intake can be considered supplementation. Evidently trace amounts lower the rate of violence. Does it not concern you as to why that's occuring?

https://www.igsli.org/general-information-on-lithium/adverse-effects-of-lithium-salts.html

Lithium can reduce testosterone levels, especially in older men. An increase in luteinizing hormone (LH) may indicate that Leydig cell function is impaired. Prolactin levels remain unchanged during lithium treatment. As of yet, the influence of lithium on female sex hormones has not been sufficiently studied.

There's your violence reduction. Your leydig cells are fucked by nature of exposure to all the shitty plastic softening agents that seep into everything consumed. Why can't we just have clean water instead and focus on pushing mental health care advocacy?

**edited to get to my point

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You're comparing trace amounts in groundwater to treatment amounts by clinicians. Apples to oranges. Next you'll start saying Oxygen is dangerous and we should all stop breathing. Do you get how ridiculous your concerns are yet, or do I need to keep belaboring the point?

I can't even begin to imagine the absurdities you must bend over backward to believe when you ignore the neurological effects of lithium in favor of an hilariously fragile terror of your poor testosterone being reduced. Don't be obese, get regular exercise, and don't take large clinical quantities of lithium. No, the testosterone reduction in older men from lithium is not responsible for the violence reduction.

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Keep telling yourself whatever you would like. Whatever helps you sleep at night, afterall.

I don't trust anyone putting anything unnecessary into the water supply. I'll agree to disagree with you but you're not going to change my mind.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So rather than actually endeavor to think about what I'm saying, and examine why what you are replying with doesn't constitute an argument (a good one anyway), you'd rather retreat and dismiss criticism to preserve your faith. Might I remind you, the purpose of saidit is for discussion. Digging in your heels does not belong here.

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've brought medical data to the table to explain my argument, and you've deliberately ignored it. I'm not interested in continuing an argument on the validity of adding that particular substance to the water supply, not with someone who seemingly just wants to dismiss everything. Tip your fedora harder and I guess I'll laugh at the UK from here, where we have plenty of other shit added to our food equally as toxic.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've brought medical data to the table to explain my argument, and you've deliberately ignored it.

Pointing out high clinical doses of an element are not equivalent nor relevant to trace metals is a direct refutation. Not "ignoring it". Again, this is like saying water or oxygen are dangerous and lethal. Yes -- in high amounts. Now you're just throwing a tantrum.

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, right. Have a good day.