Free Speech and Shutting Down the Vaccine Debate by zyxzevn in science

[–]Icalasari 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry, should have clarified that by antivaxxers, I mean the groups that see all vaccines as bad, not the ones who are critical of them and want to ensure whatever ones we get are as safe as possible

People can sense Earth’s magnetic field, brain waves suggest by useless_aether in science

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I have read about people who embed a small bar magnet in their finger, and after some practice they can learn this ability. Like a compass. Not sure how well it really would work though lol

People can sense Earth’s magnetic field, brain waves suggest by useless_aether in science

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah that is a very cool effect! It also brings to mind the rainbow in a puddle of oil on the ground in the rain, which refracts a rainbow of colors, the color depending on the thickness of the oil film on the water at that exact spot, which changes what frequencies are refracted and reflected. Light is so cool

People can sense Earth’s magnetic field, brain waves suggest by useless_aether in science

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Polarized films can also be used to see areas of residual stress in clear plastics.

The stressed locations refract light at slightly differing angles, which allow the bent light to be filtered.

People can sense Earth’s magnetic field, brain waves suggest by useless_aether in science

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah polarized filters are great for seeing reflective surfaces, because shallow reflections naturally polarize light in one direction. Pretty cool stuff

People can sense Earth’s magnetic field, brain waves suggest by useless_aether in science

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

an isolation tank? i would really like to tell north without a compass !

People can sense Earth’s magnetic field, brain waves suggest by useless_aether in science

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i played with polarized foils and filters a bit, they are great to use in photography to filter out reflections from lights, on the water, to make the blue sky more saturated, even as a neutral density filter. i cant see it though, usually its just a moire.

People can sense Earth’s magnetic field, brain waves suggest by useless_aether in science

[–]Farseli 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reminds me of TMS: https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/transcranial-magnetic-stimulation/about/pac-20384625

It's not surprising that the brain is affected by magnetic fields since it uses ions to send electric signals around.

My question is if it is actually possible for anyone to use this. I know of blind people able to use echolocation, so is this something that could potentially be used but first requires other stimuli to be removed?

People can sense Earth’s magnetic field, brain waves suggest by useless_aether in science

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Many birds can see magnetic polarization in their eyes.

My friend can even see the direction of polarization of light, like on LED screens and stuff, apparently there's a technique to it where it appears more yellow one way and more blue another way.

Here's an article about the technique: https://www.polarization.com/haidinger/haidinger.html

I've tried it and I can't get it to work, but one of my friends can reliably see it.

Free Speech and Shutting Down the Vaccine Debate by zyxzevn in science

[–]zyxzevn[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You mix up religious anti-vax movements with movements that aware of the safety concerns with vaccines.
Among those are many doctors.

Association of American Physicians and surgeons

Vaccines are necessarily risky, as recognized by the U.S. Supreme Court and by Congress. The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has paid some $4 billion in damages, and high hurdles must be surmounted to collect compensation. The damage may be so devastating that most people would prefer restored function to a multimillion-dollar damage award.

Here is an example of a vaccine injury:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQn51h1uy4w
I think in this case it is a organic-mercury poisoning, which happens sometimes with bad vaccines. The alternative treatment does not do help in this case, I think.

This dangers of vaccines should be in balance with the dangers of the diseases.

Free Speech and Shutting Down the Vaccine Debate by zyxzevn in science

[–]Icalasari 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Antivax movement basically. It allowed for diseases to make a comeback which allows governments an excuse to shut down stuff. Combined with people by themselves shutting down that stuff and you get a censorship machine. It really sucks because the antivax movement brought about the very thing they were afraid of, and even if every government in the world was 100% honest and pure, all it takes is one corrupt person taking control to make it that saying anything, even with evidence, against stuff gets you shut down

That was the real danger behind the movement. Not the outbreaks, but governments and companies potentially using it to forward their own agendas

Guh I feel like I sound like a nut

Free Speech and Shutting Down the Vaccine Debate by zyxzevn in science

[–]zyxzevn[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Vaccine safety concern is not ant-vaccine.

I am fully supporting the American Physicians and Surgeons in their statement:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-06/association-american-physicians-surgeons-strongly-opposes-mandatory-vaccines

Even the idea that Vaccines might not be completely safe is being censored. This may be the last thing that stops corrupt medicine industry from selling vaccines that really bad (HIV etc?). Truthstream media looks behind the people behind the vaccine propaganda.

The propaganda makes me more worried about vaccines and other medicine. Where is the safety? How did we lose control? History shows that the companies will always put profit above safety.

CO2 is a coolant, not a greenhouse gas. by useless_aether in science

[–]wizzwizz4 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

CO₂ re-radiates energy from high-energy massive (particular) radiation. It is also a greenhouse gas. The two are not mutually exclusive. (The article is misleading in describing CO₂ as a thermostat; it's technically correct, but doesn't apply to this situation.)

When CO₂ is hot, like all things, it radiates more black body radiation. However, it only gets hot when it absorbs things. (Reasonably accurate chart of absorption spectrum.) If you look at the absorption spectrum, you'll see that it mostly absorbs low-energy / high wavelength light – in the infra-red part of the spectrum. This is the band of wavelengths that make up most of what is given off by things that aren't hot enough to glow.

It also absorbs energy from large, non-light particles that rain down on it. (If I shine a bright torch at a clean pane of glass then it won't get too hot, but if I throw glowing pieces of metal at it then it will get very hot – even if I shine more energy at the pane of glass than is in the metal that I throw at it.)

What happened in the solar flare was that lots of high-energy massive radiation rained down on the upper atmosphere, which warmed it up as those particles collided with the air. This caused the CO₂ in the upper atmosphere to glow more brightly (though still not enough to glow in the visible spectrum). Since there wasn't much CO₂ above it to re-absorb the light, the net effect was to re-radiate almost all of the energy dumped into the atmosphere right back into space.

Now, you'll see that CO₂ doesn't much affect high-energy, short wavelength light, like light in the visible spectrum. That's why CO₂ is (almost) invisible; it doesn't absorb visible light or higher-energy light. However, it does absorb lower-energy light, heating it up and causing it to re-radiate that as low-energy light (since it isn't hot enough to glow).

High-energy light (visible, ultra-violet (to an extent; other stuff filters lots of that out), etc.) gets through the atmosphere and lands on the ground. The ground is not transparent to this light; otherwise we'd be able to see people on the other side of the world. (Or whatever's underneath the world; this model works equally well with a Flat Earth. *rolls eyes*) Near-white stuff like snow reflects most light (which is why it takes so long for snow to melt even when the sun is shining directly on it, even though you can melt it easily in your hand), whereas near-black stuff like tarmac absorbs most light (which is why the road is so hot on sunny days). You can test this using a Leslie cube, a torch and a thermometer, or by making your own experiment. Absorbing light makes things heat up, which makes them radiate – but unless they're very hot, they'll radiate low-energy radiation.

Low-energy radiation at the top of the atmosphere will cause CO₂ (and other greenhouse gases, but we're just dealing with CO₂ at the moment) towards the top of the atmosphere to heat up and (net) to radiate heat upwards – towards where there is less CO₂. Low-energy radiation at the bottom of the atmosphere will have the same effect; to radiate heat downwards, where there is less CO₂. The greenhouse gases in the atmosphere act sort of like a conditional mirror; they let through high-energy radiation and "reflect" (but not really reflect) low-energy radiation.

This is actually how a greenhouse works, too; if you get a low-infrared camera and put a cold piece of glass (from the freezer) in between it and something warm (like your hand) you won't be able to see your hand very well. (In principle this should also work with a warm piece of glass, but that piece of glass will be warm enough to be glowing too, so you wouldn't be stupid to blame the absence of a visible hand on the noise / interference.) However, shine higher-energy light (e.g. from a torch) through and you'll see it goes through fine. (Absorption spectrum of Kopp Glass' 3131 filter (HTTP))


I plan to put together a simplified simulation to check my model. It'll be slow, though, since it'll be modelling individual particles of air. It'll also have to have a higher concentration of "ideal greenhouse gas" since my computer wouldn't be able to manage to simulate (6.02214076 * (10 ^ 23)) / 24 = 2 509 225 316 670 000 000 000 molecules per litre (at sea-level / room temperature) of an entire column of atmosphere (stretching tens of thousands of metres) – even if I only simulated the 0.41% of that that's actually CO₂. (So don't say "but there's nowhere near as much CO₂ in the atmosphere as in your simulation, therefore your model is wrong"; unless you can explain why this is a valid refutation you'll have to poke a hole in the actual theory, and not my demonstration-aid inaccurate computer simulation.)

CO2 is a coolant, not a greenhouse gas. by useless_aether in science

[–]Vigte 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cool ants.

but... the mister al gore said...

CO2 is a coolant, not a greenhouse gas. by useless_aether in science

[–]fred_red_beans 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While there is consensus about the current climate science equations, they do not take into account x-rays, solar wind, and high energy protons from the sun.

CO2 is a coolant, not a greenhouse gas. by useless_aether in science

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

or ?

PDF - PDF Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in Infant Monkeys Exposed to Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing Thimerosal. doi:10.1289/ehp.7712 by Tom_Bombadil in science

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This was the study that proved that thimerisol was unsafe because it was being absorbed into the brain.

PDF - PDF Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in Infant Monkeys Exposed to Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing Thimerosal. doi:10.1289/ehp.7712 by Tom_Bombadil in science

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TLDR: The brain is useful in cleaning vaccine mercury out of the blood.

The large difference in the blood Hg half-life compared to the brain half-life for the thimerosal-exposed infants (6.9 days vs 24 days) indicates that blood Hg may not be a good indicator of risk of adverse effects on the brain, particularly under conditions of rapidly changing blood levels such as those observed following vaccinations. The blood concentrations of the thimerosal-exposed infants in the current study are within the range of those reported for human infants following vaccination (Stajich et al 2000).

Data from the current study predicts that while little accumulation of Hg in the blood occurs over time with repeated vaccinations, accumulation of Hg in the brain of infants will occur. Thus, conclusion regarding the safety of thimerosl drawn from blood Hg clearance data in human infants receiving vaccines may not be valid, given the significantly slower half- life of Hg in the brain as observed in the infant macaques.

There was a much higher proportion of inorganic Hg in the brain of thimerosal infants than MeHg infants (up to 71% vs. 10%). Absolute inorganic Hg concentrations in the brains of the thimerosal-exposed infants were approximately twice that of the MeHg infants. Interestingly, the inorganic fraction in the kidneys of the same cohort of infants was also significantly higher following i.m. thimerosal than oral MeHg exposure (0.71±0.04 vs. 0.40±0.03). This suggest that the dealkylation of ethylmercury is much more extensive than that of MeHg.

Previous reports have indicated that the dealkylation of mercury is a detoxification process that helps to protect the CNS (Magos et al. 1985; Magos 2003). These reports are largely based on histology and histochemistry studies of adult rodents exposed to mercury for a short period of time.

The results of these studies indicated that damage to the cerebellum was only observed in MeHg treated animals who had much lower levels of inorganic mercury in the brain than animals comparably treated with ethylmercury. Moreover, the results did not indicate the presence of inorganic mercury deposits in the area where the cerebellar damage was localized (granular layer).

In contrast, previous studies of adult M. fascicularis monkeys exposed chronically to MeHg have indicated that demethylation of mercury occurs in the brain over a long period of time following MeHg exposure and that this is not a detoxification process (Vahter et al. 1994, 1995; Charleston et al. 1994, 1995, 1996).

Results from these studies indicated higher inorganic Hg concentrations in the brain 6 months after MeHg exposure had ended while organic Hg had cleared from the brain. The estimated half-life of organic Hg in the brain of these adult monkeys was consistent across various brain regions at approximately 37days (similar to the brain half-life in the present infant monkeys).
The estimated half-life of inorganic Hg in the brain in the same adult cohort varied greatly across some regions of the brain, from 227 days to 540 days. In other regions, the concentrations of inorganic Hg remained the same (thalamus) or doubled (pituitary) 6 months after exposure to MeHg had ended (Vahter et al. 1994, 1995).

Stereologic and autometallographic studies on the brains of these adult monkeys indicated that the persistence of inorganic Hg in the brain was associated with a significant increase in the number of microglia in the brain, while the number of astrocytes declined. Notably, these effects were observed 6 months after exposure to methymercury ended, when inorganic Hg concentrations were at their highest levels, or in animals solely exposed to inorganic Hg (Charleston et al. 1994, 1995, 1996).

The effects in the adult macaques were associated with brain inorganic Hg levels approximately 5 times higher than those observed in the present group of infant macaques. The longer-term effects (greater than 6 months) of inorganic Hg in the brain have not been examined.

In addition, whether similar effects are observed at lower levels in the developing brain is not known. It is important to note that a recent publication has demonstrated “an active neuroinflammatory process” in brains of autistic patients, including a marked activation of microglia (Vargas et al. 2005).

Cloud Types by magnora7 in science

[–]hennaojisan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To demonstrate the danger of microwaves to signal corps enlisted men, the instructor would put a hotdog on the end of a bamboo pole and hold it in front of an active parabolic antenna. It cooked pretty damn quick. Imagine what 5G can do. It killed a few hundred birds in The Netherlands days ago in a test of their 5G network. That was reported in plain vanilla media.

Cloud Types by magnora7 in science

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wait, what? They spray aerosols? Why?

Cloud Types by magnora7 in science

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Totally agree, Sundog. Next time we get the microwave clouds I'll try to get a photo. They always come after heavy spraying.

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[–]SundogsPlace 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Call me crazy, but I think the aerosols they spray, go hand, in hand with their cell towers. Once upon a time, back in the late 90's, a fried of mine was wiring those towers up; they take insane power for what they are, and all have back up systems. At that time, you could pop a bag of popcorn in front of an active array.