Scientists in China find mysterious virus at the bottom of the Mariana Trench: "The virus, called vB_HmeY_H4907, was found at a depth of 29,199 feet... The virus is a bacteriophage — a type of lifeform that infects bacteria before hijacking their cellular machinery to generate more copies of itself" by neolib in science

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So we could assume they brought the virus up out of the ocean and into human civilization where they could analyze it, before they accidentally release it. This sounds like another Wuhan wet fish market, where COVID supposedly began.... In a bat. But who actually believes that? It was man-made, not found.

Consciousness theory slammed as ‘pseudoscience’ — sparking uproar: "A letter, signed by 124 scholars and posted online ... claims that a prominent theory describing what makes someone or something conscious — called the integrated information theory (IIT) — should be labelled “pseudoscience”." by neolib in science

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The term "consciousness" is a term of rhetoric.

So, someone [ usually an apologist for the state, such as Aristotle ] says that consciousness is present in certain animals and not in others.

Of course, the only test for "consciousness" is to to ask " Are you conscious ? ", which, is really in fact just a test for hearing and speech.

The AAAS is such a sad crew of simps, hangers on , grifters, liars, cheats, and pushovers.

Which is why the U.S. government gives them such excessive lots of table scraps, for being pushovers, bullies, and rip off artists.

Genetically Modified Bacteria Break Down Plastics in Saltwater by PanzerDivision in science

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There are already natural ones that break down plastics. No need for genetically modified ones.

Genetically Modified Bacteria Break Down Plastics in Saltwater by PanzerDivision in science

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What could go wrong?

Cannabis-Involved Traffic Injury ED Visits After Legalization and Commercialization by Cancelthis in science

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The best test for how high someone is , , is to compare their response on a executive task, versus a baseline.

Examples of an executive task :

Balancing a check book

Completing an application for auto insurance

Re wiring an electrical panel.

Just a thought.

Cannabis-Involved Traffic Injury ED Visits After Legalization and Commercialization by Cancelthis in science

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Good point. I've seen some videos and seen the testing they do now. It's a bunch of bs questions and just about every example leads to "you're high because I think I smell weed." Even been some lawsuits where people have been falsely charged with driving under the influence. How do you fight that?

Mysterious ‘skin-like’ golden orb found on ocean floor off Alaska coast by neolib in science

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Cannabis-Involved Traffic Injury ED Visits After Legalization and Commercialization by Cancelthis in science

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My point is what poor science is being financed by the government, to come up with such dubious analyses.

The only way to tell if someone is high when driving is film them smoking ahead of time, and test the ashes and leftover cigarette after words.

They might just be imagining that they are high.

Mysterious ‘skin-like’ golden orb found on ocean floor off Alaska coast by neolib in science

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He elaborated, “While we were able to collect the 'golden orb' and bring it onto the ship, we still are not able to identify it beyond the fact that it is biological in origin. We likely won't learn more until we are able to get it into a laboratory setting where we can continue to pull from the collective expertise of the scientific community with more sophisticated tools than we are able to maintain on the ship. While somewhat humbling to be stumped by this finding, it serves as a reminder of how little we know about our own planet and how much is left to learn and appreciate about our ocean.”

... it's still unclear if the golden dome is associated with a known species, a new species, or perhaps represents an unknown life stage of an existing one

https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/news/oer-updates/2023/golden-orb.html

Cannabis-Involved Traffic Injury ED Visits After Legalization and Commercialization by Cancelthis in science

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True, but that's if you're actually high. If you smoke the day before, you'll have it in your system, but are you actually impaired at the moment? It's like, yeah, I had a few beers over the weekend, but I'm not driving drunk on Tuesday unless I have beer that day.

Mysterious ‘skin-like’ golden orb found on ocean floor off Alaska coast by neolib in science

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Cannabis-Involved Traffic Injury ED Visits After Legalization and Commercialization by Cancelthis in science

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Not a double blind trial.

Pot notoriously screws with driving.

But if anything, it just makes a driver more paranoid about the police.

Cannabis-Involved Traffic Injury ED Visits After Legalization and Commercialization by Cancelthis in science

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I'm dubious. How are they determining intoxication vs. just being in your system? If you smoke regularly, even if it's just once a week, you'll fail a urinalysis. And compared to a breathalyzer, the pot test is ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, while I may be in favor of legalization, taxation and regulation, I'm 100% against driving stoned. No different than alcohol in my book, but I don't think we're there yet with testing people to see if they're high or just dumb.

Scientists grow whole model of human embryo, without sperm or egg by PanzerDivision in science

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Now we know where Reddit admins come from.

Cannabis-Involved Traffic Injury ED Visits After Legalization and Commercialization by Cancelthis in science

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One more example of the sadness of the professional dunces in American science.

Sad, just walk away.

Of course, smoking pot will lead to traffic accidents.

Mostly backing into bricks, driving off the road into weeds, and leaving food on the roof before driving off. [ and driving into dead ends, and not being able to promptly turn around, and being threatened by local farmers ] [ a bit too specific ! haha ]

Insular Stimulation Produces Mental Clarity and Bliss by Entropick in science

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ss: For the first time, an ecstatic aura has been evoked through the electrical stimulation of the dorsal anterior insula during presurgical invasive intracerebral monitoring in a patient who did not suffer from an ecstatic form of epilepsy. ... On the MEQ‐30 questionnaire, completed to describe the ecstatic symptoms experienced during the AI3‐4 stimulations, the patient had a total score of 130 of 150 points... which is considered a "complete" mystical experience.

Scientists find way to wipe a cell's memory to reprogram it as a stem cell by boston_blackie in science

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big if true.

i'm still waiting for "inject a gum and a tooth grows properly" therapy, personally.

How was the size of Earth first measured? by boston_blackie in science

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I believe it was first approximated by measuring the curvature of the Earth. This was done by considering how far one can see on flat ground (or over water) in the complete absence of any obstruction.

ETA I was wrong. It was first done by Eratosthenes using shadows. Weird.

Scientists strengthen concrete by 30 percent with used coffee grounds by PanzerDivision in science

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I got as far as the first sentence before tuning it out. It's a lie. There is no shortage of sand. Literally the world is covered in rocks, and the rocks have been crushed for decades to make the fine aggregate in concrete.

COVID-19 boosts risks of health problems 2 years later, giant study of veterans says by Cancelthis in science

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Well then when are the lefty politicians that took the shots going to start dropping dead?

COVID-19 boosts risks of health problems 2 years later, giant study of veterans says by Cancelthis in science

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Among nonhospitalized individuals, although the risks of most sequelae became nonstatistically significant at 2 years

that's all you need to know. 99.99% of everyone is gonna be just fine.

Also noteworthy: there is a metric shit-tonne of numbers-fudging going on in this paper to justify making almost the main point of the stupid thing "you really should take the jab". There's so many adjustments in this paper it's unbelievable.

Animal vs. Plant Protein: New Research Suggests That What We Already Knew About Vegans Being Full Of Shit Was Correct by hfxB0oyA in science

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Does shitting out twigs and leaves hurt vegan assholes?

300,000-year-old skull found in China unlike any early human seen before by SoCo in science

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I like how they made up all the weird parts out of modeling clay

300,000-year-old skull found in China unlike any early human seen before by SoCo in science

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A spur, maybe?

An unintended test of geoengineering is fueling record ocean warmth. Pollution cuts have diminished “ship track” clouds, adding to global warming. by SoCo in science

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Things to remember:

Bricks Alive! Scientists Create Living Concrete by magnora7 in science

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Hey everyone! I'm currently on the hunt for a wedding photographer in Arlington. Any recommendations or experiences with local photographers for Arlington wedding photography

What’s going on with the reports of a room-temperature superconductor? Rumors are flying of confirmation, but the situation is still frustratingly vague. by neolib in science

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Reproduction was pretty strait forward, If you have the proper vacuum and heating equipment. It is hard to think that no one would have confirmed this yet.

Yet, I've mentioned before that I think the videos look pretty suspect.

What’s going on with the reports of a room-temperature superconductor? Rumors are flying of confirmation, but the situation is still frustratingly vague. by neolib in science

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Never trust "science" which comes from China. In fact, anything from China should be regarded as false until proven otherwise, much like every other government.

What’s going on with the reports of a room-temperature superconductor? Rumors are flying of confirmation, but the situation is still frustratingly vague. by neolib in science

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The situation is not frustratingly vague. Paradigm-shifting physics discoveries are 100% subject to being called fake and wrong, until verified. This one so far has been "verified" by an internet troon and a shady chinese lab you wouldn't trust to make a grilled cheese sammich.

A spectacular superconductor claim is making news. Here’s why experts are doubtful by boston_blackie in science

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It's about time someone said something...but this article doesn't say much of anything.

The two video's I've run across, demonstrating this LK-99, are what really stand out to me, causing my skepticism. The levitating looks like some (underwhelming) tricks you can do with a ferrous item, a magnet, and a chunk of di-magnetic in-between them. The hanging video, he shouldn't need to shake the magnet. That makes me think of a para-magnetic, like copper.

A room temperature superconductor, of an abundant material, that is easy to make, would be awesome. Maybe they found something unique. Yet, at a glance is doesn't seem like your standard superconductor.

Enjoy alcohol, without the hangover by PanzerDivision in science

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And damage your liver more thoroughly in the process!

"Today might have seen the biggest physics discovery of my lifetime. I don't think people fully grasp the implications of an ambient temperature/pressure superconductor. Here's how it could totally change our lives." by PanzerDivision in science

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LMAO we're not gonna be making power transmission lines out of OUT OF FUCKING LEAD this is the most delusional concept LOL

"Today might have seen the biggest physics discovery of my lifetime. I don't think people fully grasp the implications of an ambient temperature/pressure superconductor. Here's how it could totally change our lives." by PanzerDivision in science

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It's great to hear that, not only does it take common materials, but it also sounds easy to make. I was worried it would be another graphene...made from common charcoal, but super difficult to manufacture at scale.

I'm stoked to get a copy of the paper too! Until now I had been stuck by greedy paywalls on scientific paper publishing places.

Indestructible Terminator-style killer robots move one step closer to reality as scientists discover self-healing metals by PanzerDivision in science

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Don't worry about AI. Scientists and engineers are much too stupid to ever really understand the human mind well enough to replicate or surpass it.

Interesting claim: "The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor" by LibertyV in science

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Wow this appears to be true... HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

Interesting claim: "The First Room-Temperature Ambient-Pressure Superconductor" by LibertyV in science

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Scientists invent double-sided solar panel that generates vastly more electricity by PanzerDivision in science

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seems like you could also just mount another one underneath, no?

The SAFE sticker is a UV purification label that works by simply sticking it on a bottle of contaminated water, putting the container in the sun and waiting for the UV light to kill harmful bacteria, viruses and microorganisms. by PanzerDivision in science

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I was hoping the stickers were going to be some kind of hologram that reflected light more-so in a UV range, but this seems more cheap and economic.

I do worry how much UV is absorbed by those plastic bottles though. They add UV stabilizers to the plastic, to prevent them from degrading quickly in the sun. I'm not sure if that equates to passing less UV through, but it would be a first concern. The increase in plastic chemicals leaches in the water, when exposed to UV and sunlight would probably be my next concern.

The first quarter of the lecture truly delves into history , philosophy and culture of Mathematics by Venkat in science

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The Culture of Mathematics is interesting and the talk mentioned in the link delves into various cultures like Egyotian, Babylonian, Greek and Indian Mathematical folklore and of course modern math!

A Cracked Piece of Metal Healed Itself in an Experiment That Stunned Scientists by Musky in science

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A possible explanation involves a process known as cold welding, which occurs under ambient temperatures whenever metal surfaces come close enough together for their respective atoms to tangle together. Typically, thin layers of air or contaminants interfere with the process; in environments like the vacuum of space, pure metals can be forced close enough together to literally stick.

FTA

A Cracked Piece of Metal Healed Itself in an Experiment That Stunned Scientists by Musky in science

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Sounds like it's just vacuum welding of nano-sized cracks.

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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Pick one.

There's nothing there suggesting they're taking bribes.

The journals are all either "peer reviewed" by hacktivists

Peer review is carried out by academics in the field. In the case of NPG, they can get academics leading the field.

There is NO trustworthy journal any more than there is a trustworthy news outlet.

Peer review is what it is. When you've got a better system, let me know. But NPG doesn't take bribes.

Online tests suggest IQ scores in US dropped for the first time in nearly a century by Alphix in science

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Will? Have you ever visited the resource centers of universities? People can’t write coherent paragraphs and need help with basic algebra.

I’m on another forum with a guy who teaches law students. His goal for these future lawyers is to get them to read and understand the Trolley Problem. The answers he gets from college graduates are things like lol 5>1 or “I don’t want to kill people”.

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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Pick one. The journals are all either "peer reviewed" by hacktivists or they are junk for publishing anyone who has a paper. There is NO trustworthy journal any more than there is a trustworthy news outlet. Every paper must be judged by a discerning reader on its merits.

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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I think most people would recognise NPG as the most respected and expensive science journal in the world.

So they have the more to lose than any other scholarly publishing group if the perception of their editorial independence erodes.

It's hilarious that you would pick on them as the one that is taking bribes for publish papers.

I wonder how you came to have that idea, much less think all other people should reach the same conclusion.

I guess the most likely is that you've encountered leading edge scientific articles there, but you've bought into some anti-scientific conspiracy theory such as anti-vax, alt-med, flat earth or climate science denial.

But maybe you think science is bad in general perhaps via some religious cult.

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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LOL do you not

Scientists at Purdue have created a white paint that, when applied, can reduce the surface temperature on a roof and cool the building beneath it. by PanzerDivision in science

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Yeah, but it's white and therefore racist.

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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You think that NPG have a business model the depends on bribes for what they publish?

Scientists at Purdue have created a white paint that, when applied, can reduce the surface temperature on a roof and cool the building beneath it. by PanzerDivision in science

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white roofs have been a thing since forever though (?) It's an 8% increase in reflectivity and isn't actually usable as a roof paint since they started working on it 3 years ago, and may never be

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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Do my friends and/or bribees say my research is legit no matter what and my ideological adversaries' is bullshit lies, in this kind of science you propose?

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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How do you feel about scientific research as a method of advancing human knowledge?

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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cucked beyond recognition. The whole Nature franchise. Sad you don't realize this already but perhaps you will awaken soon. You have not granted the point yet by the way.

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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How do you feel about Nature Geoscience?

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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oh, so rolling stone isn't a fish wrapper but a solid unbiased, only-music magazine, good to know

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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Famous last words.

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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The reason I mention the evidence presented is to give you the opportunity to back up your claims with some citations.

Should I take it from your inability to do so that you concede that global warming contributes to .. the warming of the globe that we are observing?

Because it almost doesn't need you to accept that. It's basically self-evident.

UN says climate change ‘out of control’ after likely hottest week on record by ActuallyNot in science

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Every single prediction the "climate scientists" have ever made has failed to pass.

The predictions have been a lot more accurate that you might get the impression if you haven't been following any of them.

Here's a few:

Svante Arrhenius calculated in this paper in 1896, that increasing the carbon dioxide concentration of the atmosphere would cause global warming.

Now, 127 years later, that warming has been clearly observed.

In 1988 James Hansen predicted the rate or warming, under three scenarios. 35 years later, the one that was closest to actual emissions, was spot on the nose.

Stott el. al. in this 2000 paper, let one of the models run on past the end point. (See figure 1). 23 years later, it has tracked very closely with observations, crossing 1.5°C of warming around the likely 2027.

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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I don't imagine that the bacteria would be viable. Viruses can last several hundred years at least, and be viable. Millions would surprise me.

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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Scientists: "We found high concentrations of methane in 122 of the 123 groundwater springs they measured. We've published the article in Nature Geoscience, and we presented a talk to EGU. There's also a journalist article in Rolling Stone, and in the Washington Post"

iamonlyoneman: "Don't do science leftard. The only facts that aren't politically biased are the ones right wing shock jocks make up on the air."

Scientists: ... 'kay.

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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This time around, it is intensified by having an unprecedented 3 years strait of cold ocean surface waters (La Nina).

As the paper I linked provides evidence for, global warming is intensifying the ENSO. That includes both the El Nino and La Nina phases.

I'm not aware that a strong La Nina doesn't mean that a following El Nino will be strong, because of that. Can you link me to the research that establishes this causal link you're claiming?

After one extreme swing, we can rationally expect a somewhat extreme swing back (actually this was heavily predicted ahead of time by almost every weather officiant).

That's what you need to show.

The urban heat island effect is when this effect is so concentrated that it extends past the 30 feet from a ground temperature statue the USGS requires.

Nope. "Heat islands are urbanized areas that experience higher temperatures than outlying areas.". No minimum distance from a station required.

In 2015, more than 90% of our stations were out of spec in this way, leading to an obvious incorrect inflation of flawed ground temperature readings, which likely grew slowly over 20 years as more out of spec stations were carelessly added. Our more recent attempts to fix this, came with sketchy and non-transparent algorithms which were expressly meant to mimic the value of these bad flawed stations...for some reason.

I've show you a paper that demonstrates this effect to be small. But also urban temperature measurements are avoided or adjusted so as not to affect the mean temperature with purely local effects.

This article reviews the effects that urban heat islands may have on estimates of global near-surface temperature trends. These effects have been reduced by avoiding or adjusting urban temperature measurements.

The particular algorithms are generally available for a temperature data set you're looking at, if it's based on surface station data.

It was published and highly regarded, very embarrassing, and it is easy to find.

No it wasn't. Follow the money.

This was the second one, which found that after the first embarrassment some years before, that things got even worse.

Oh, boy, you've been drinking the cool aid.

There's scholarly papers on temperature measurements. There's no reason you need to drop down to paid advocates supporting the fossil fuel industry.

I've linked to some of them in this thread, so they're easier to find. Read them. You'll discover the instrumental temperature data is pretty good.

FFS, the temperature trend from satellite measurements is greater than that from the NASA GISTEMP: https://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1980/plot/gistemp/from:1980/plot/rss/from:1980/trend/plot/gistemp/from:1980/trend

I assume you can work out that satellite measured temperatures aren't affected by your "temperature stations are inaccurate" bullshit?

Good.

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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Whose measurements published?

There's several.

And they align closely, which refutes that there's a disconnect.

What actual temperature profile of the earth's surface do you think you know of, that's independent of all the measurements?

Human activity is certainly causing the warming. It's that the human factor you mean?

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Yea, well I know lots of whitey that no longer hires nigras because of this shit. They don't want to deal with the drama.

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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The disconnect is between the actual temperature profile of earth's surface, and the measurements published. The human factor is far more significant than you seem to acknowledge.

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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My point is that when you say its "All natural", you're wrong. It is intensified by human activity.

This time around, it is intensified by having an unprecedented 3 years strait of cold ocean surface waters (La Nina). This is the swing back to warm ocean surface waters (El Nino). After one extreme swing, we can rationally expect a somewhat extreme swing back (actually this was heavily predicted ahead of time by almost every weather officiant). This is convenient for people misrepresenting causal relations, especially if they ignore the relation to the previous 3 years.

That is the urban heat island effect.

No, that is improper and out of specification USGS ground temperature stations. The urban heat island effect is when this effect is so concentrated that it extends past the 30 feet from a ground temperature statue the USGS requires. When you mount a ground temperature status in a parking lot or in front of an building's air conditioner's outside hot air blower, this isn't an effect, it is simply a mistake and a station that doesn't meet the USGS' requirements. In 2015, more than 90% of our stations were out of spec in this way, leading to an obvious incorrect inflation of flawed ground temperature readings, which likely grew slowly over 20 years as more out of spec stations were carelessly added. Our more recent attempts to fix this, came with sketchy and non-transparent algorithms which were expressly meant to mimic the value of these bad flawed stations...for some reason.

So far I've pointed out that you incorrectly label the recent El Nino as "all natural".

Yes, El Nino's are common and natural. They are a product of the Earths thermal air and ocean cycles.

And I've pointed out that the temperature measurements are not due to anomalous ground station measurements.

You've misunderstood, yet again, after I've explained going on 3 times.

But I'd be interested in your assessment of global ground stations, so long as it's from a genuine scientific source: Obviously I'm not going to read some bullshit from Watts up with that?

They did one in 2015, despite heavy push back. It was published and highly regarded, very embarrassing, and it is easy to find. This was the second one, which found that after the first embarrassment some years before, that things got even worse.

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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The article tries to shift blame, yes.

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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I also know that surface temperature means fuck-all when it comes to measuring the temperatures you and I experience on a daily and ongoing basis

You and i don't live on the surface?

and the mean surface temperature calculations are approximately worth less than used birdcage lining when it comes to reflecting reality.

The globally averaged mean exposes the global warming component.

Tell me you don't know about the corruption in the process, the uncorrectable nature of sampling problems on the surface or the urban heat island effect and what ice cream trucks have to do with maximum temperatures, but phrase it as a question.

Woah. You've really been drinking the wattsupwiththat cool aid, haven't you?

If you can't read the scientific literature at least follow the money.

There's no corruption in the process, because as you claim to know, there's lots of groups doing it. The results align enough.

The Urban heart island effect is insignificant and corrected for in the major data sets, certainly the NCEP data reported on.

I've got no idea what you're referencing by ice cream trucks. Do you?

There's a stack of the most profitable businesses in the world whose industry is oil. There's a stack of large ones who's industry is coal. You can pay people to pay down climate change. That's why people who aren't scientists (and two or three that are) can be found playing down climate change.

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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Nah, just an oblique reference to truth in science reporting.

As if the lizard shapeshifters have infiltrated every academic and private research institution in the world and have kidnapped and replaced every staff member, associate, doctorate student and grad on the planet who has been involved in temperature measurements.

I'm not down the rabbit hole enough to have a clue what he thinks there problem is.

For all i know, he didn't believe in temperature measurements.

Including satellites, balloons, ground based, ocean based, the argo floats, and thermal expansion of the oceans.

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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didn't he though

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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I do know that. I also know that surface temperature means fuck-all when it comes to measuring the temperatures you and I experience on a daily and ongoing basis, and the mean surface temperature calculations are approximately worth less than used birdcage lining when it comes to reflecting reality.

Tell me you don't know about the corruption in the process, the uncorrectable nature of sampling problems on the surface or the urban heat island effect and what ice cream trucks have to do with maximum temperatures, but phrase it as a question.

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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You mean I know that temperature measurements are real, and the question was actually an invitation for oneman to explain where he thinks the disconnect is between the measurements and the breaking of climate records?

Correct. And yet he won't (or can't).

How would you have put the question?

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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Did you know that there's lots of groups calculating a global mean surface temperature?

There's differences, but but do much as you'd think one or more of them are inaccurate.

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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I wonder if he disbelieves scientists can be less than 100% selfless as much as I disbelieve a real person could take mainstream narrative shaping seriously.

What. You don't believe in temperature measurements?

This is not an honest question.

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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Buddy, if you think mainstream news is reporting temperature measurement accurately, you are nowhere near deep enough down the rabbit-hole of actual truth in science reporting

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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The article makes clear that the ENSO and anthropogenic global warming contribute.

Why are so many climate records breaking all at once? by ActuallyNot in science

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What. You don't believe in temperature measurements?

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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Yes, it is a well known, but hard to predict, natural phenomenon related to ocean and air temperatures cycle around the planet.

I linked you to a paper showing that it is intensified by global warming.

My point is that when you say its "All natural", you're wrong. It is intensified by human activity.

as the great many factors involved that are ignored, lead to wild and fanciful predictions.

The paper I linked showed that the majority of models align with palaeoclimate records that also "suggest a causal connection between vertical temperature stratification and ENSO strength."

So this is less "wild and fanciful" and more "predicted and also measured".

we have well established historic start and stop points for communicating history and scientific comparisons.

Are you talking about the Quaternary glaciation, or the Last Glacial Period?

Because they're both called "ice age" and they are different phenomena. One is still going on. One is finished. One started 25 times earlier than the other.

Hence the ambiguity.

I was not talking about the urban island effect, as I explained in detail and will do so again...

Okay

Measuring surface temperature accurately requires measurement stations reliably placed away from sources of heat and heat syncs (man-made materials that trap heat, ie concrete, buildings, etc).

That is the urban heat island effect.

Our last assessment of ground surface stations found that 90% of them were out of spec and likely to produce inflated values.

Link me to this assessment.

But know that changes to surface stations are corrected for. From old buckets to high-tech buoys: why initial temperature data need to be adjusted

I am happy to help you understand these topics, as long as my extensive excretions of time are not in vein...

Good on ya mate.

So far I've pointed out that you incorrectly label the recent El Nino as "all natural".

And I've pointed out that the temperature measurements are not due to anomalous ground station measurements.

But I'd be interested in your assessment of global ground stations, so long as it's from a genuine scientific source: Obviously I'm not going to read some bullshit from Watts up with that?

But given the value you put on your time, I expect that you wouldn't be trying to pass that off as "analysis".

The Arctic Is Farting ‘Ancient’ Methane and It’s Scary as Hell by ActuallyNot in science

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What about all those bacteria and viruses that have been frozen for millions of years? That shit is getting out also.

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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It's not worth it. If believing the narrative makes you happy, keep doing it. Just note that addressing less credulous people with "like you pathetically try to conclude" exposes your level of credibility.

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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Elaborate, then, instead of pointing.

Elaborate your point as well, as I did mine, and maybe I'll even take you serious.

Because quite obviously you are one of those. (Just to keep your nonsensical level)

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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Just stop fighting. I won two comments ago. With a classical artillery shell-shock that bricked you quite well.

He's right. You're retard tier, and childish enough to be some kid under 40.

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So there is hard evidence that man-made exhaustion of CO2 and other carbohydrates has led to this.

This is the false part. The rest is mainly true.

like you pathetically try to conclude.

Oh, you're one of those.

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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Surely. If we're all dead rather sooner than later, because Elon needs his helicopter to visit his local Target, it maybe doesn't mean anything to you.

But to me, it does. Since he is the guy trying to sell me his bullshit smartphone as a car.

Just stop fighting. I "won" two comments ago. With a classical artillery shell-shock that bricked you quite well. Even your whataboutism didn't help after that.

So why should it help now ?

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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Yeah a century or two is barely the blink of an eye in the overall history of our planet. IT MEANS NOTHING.

Go back a few million years: you will see EXTENDED periods of much warmer than this and extended periods of colder than this. YES THE CLIMATE CHANGES ALL THE TIME. Who knew? Everybody with a few working brain cells.

Your pea brain can't understand that I'm not talking about just one planet, but ALL OF THEM. I guess I'm going to block you because you are too dumb to talk to.

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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It is nonetheless. Since these data are publicly available, temperatures are on the rise.

My most favourite (Swiss, fyi) meteorologist stated not long ago, that 3.7.2023 was the hottest day ever recorded, worldwide.

He even wrote an article.

Guess what: On 4.7.2023 he stated the same thing (with proof, of course).

And just to show you, how this dog runs: Why should I give a rat's ass about temperatures on Venus (e.g.) ?

This is just whataboutism on your end.

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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No, it's NOT A FACT that they're rising. It all depends on what is the baseline year you are talking about. "But records only began in 1800" or whatever year is a bullshit argument. Geology goes back billions of years. And a century or two is a blink of an eye in the history of our planet. IT MEANS NOTHING.

About the volatility: there are EXTREME weather phenomena on ALL THE PLANETS IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM. The atmospheres of Pluto and Neptune have just collapsed. They had atmospheres AND NOW THEY DON'T.

Is it human activity doing this? You'd have to be pretty ignorant and delirious to say yes.

And my point about rising CO2 means rising O2 as a consequence is simply that there are mechanisms of action that counteract each other. THE MODELS DO NOT WORK and all the BS you're spouting is based ON THESE MODELS. How about you read about THAT aspect of things before writing fiction.

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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(Mean) Temperatures worldwide are rising, for a fact. Just as the volatility of local weather extremes is on the rise, worldwide. So there is hard evidence that man-made exhaustion of CO2 and other carbohydrates has led to this. (Since this the only factor that changed, since humans believe, industrialization at all costs is a nice idea and implement this idea more and more). Plants and fungi themselves can't adapt fast enough, because this usually takes generations and not just some decades.

Human greed for profit has led to massive deforestation and loss of biodiversity worldwide.

Aside from that: You really wouldn't want oxygen to rise any higher than it is about now: This would lead to insects growing massively in size. These beings are limited in size mainly by the way, "how they breathe".

They are way better in turning carbohydrates into energy (glucose) than most mammals are (effectivity-wise considered). Their generations are relatively short, which implies they can adapt much faster to a changing environment than mammals can.

Just imagine a swarm of hornets, weighting kilos (or even only hundreds of grams) each, that decided you are their next meal.

Furthermore: Deforestation quite obviously frees carbohydrates into the atmosphere instead of producing oxygen, like you pathetically try to conclude.

But since you're quite entitled to your esoteric theories, I believe this argument to be pointless, no matter how we look at it.

Sadly or luckily, ignorance and stupidity aren't punishable.

I'm a fan of reading first and writing after that, but this gift seldom is given nowadays.

Canada itself is even sadder: Turning whole regions into barren deserts to harvest oil-sands. Should bring any person to think about it. Just by looking at pictures in a classical "before/after"-manner.

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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CO2 is a bit over 400 ppm, but many plants love CO2 levels up to 1600 ppm, and possibly higher. Balance the growth factors and most plants will experience accelerated growth and production with higher CO2 levels.

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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Let's also reiterate actual science and facts: MODELS say that CO2 is a "greenhouse gas", but there is no proof, and the models are absolutely broken. The versions of climate models that are closer to actually working are those with very low CO2 sensitivity.

In other words: there is no evidence that CO2 warms the planet. There is tons of evidence however, that CO2 is plant food, which greens the planet and increases oxygen production... Hm...

Wait, they're burning forests to blame climate change and forcing CO2 levels lower... They are also cutting down on food production. Hm... Looks like a compounding effect to me.

Four possible consequences of El Niño returning in 2023 by [deleted] in science

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I read just yesterday that there already are some speculations that 2023 is 2024 in "light", so to say.

Some other people discussing this also believe that this incarnation of El Nino could last something like five years.

Combine this with increased sun-spot-activity, and you can imagine, what this decade possibly can look like.

Furthermore, I'm really disgusted by the fact that people living below the income median (the country doesn't actually matter) already are fulfilling the Paris climate targets for more than a decade, while on the other hand all those hyper-rich dumb fucks are the real source of most emission with their mostly completely stupid lifestyle decisions.

The cherry on top are the poor idiots shilling for Musk (e.g.) and his slavedriver-breed of ticks.

Or those people shilling for war. Wars obviously are an emission- and resource nightmare.

UN says climate change ‘out of control’ after likely hottest week on record by ActuallyNot in science

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Every single prediction the "climate scientists" have ever made has failed to pass. What the hell makes you think that their predictive ability has suddenly switched from complete failure to someone you can put your faith in?

Neurologist Dr. Debra Soh Says There are Only Two Genders and We Should Just Get Over All the Nonsense (7:30) by chottohen in science

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She and Joe have a four hour forty minute conversation on this and related subjects. This is only a snippet, Usually if someone says there are only two genders that is the end of any meaningful discussion. We need more calm, factual conversations like this.