s/holohoax quarantined (reddit-style)

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[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

I didn't even know it existed ...Why was it quarantined, when? The moderation log is missing as far as I can tell... u/magnora7, what happened?

[–]fred_red_beans 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Look at the single user who had content and was mod:

https://saidit.net/user/critias

Looks like the user was removing posts simply because he disagreed with them:

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/w6s/saidit_rules_for_moderators/3x4m?context=3

https://saidit.net/s/PissEarthBegins/comments/1krr/abandoned_my_sub_fuck_this_site_poalco_it_is/

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

Ok, I see Magnora had an issue with the mod censorship. But, why is the sub quarantined you think, because no one can actively mod it?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Because the sub is a stupid idea.

It can/will be weaponized, to make the entire site appear line an "antisemetic" "holocaust denier" operation.

The right wing posts are already being sockpuppeted to discourage other left leaning people from joining. Albion Times bullshit, etc.

Everything and anything related to the holocaust can be submitted into /s/holocaust.

Facts, fiction, etc., whatever; can all be posted/discussed/debated from the current holocaust sub.

Certain measures should be taken to protect the site from malicious attack. Internal and external.

I don't like it. No doubt M7 doesn't like it either.

The servers are in a European country. In some places there are legal penalties for antisemitism, or even questioning the narrative of concerning the holocaust.

A sub named "holohoax" is a recipe for disaster.

This is a small sacrifice.

IMHO.

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

Because the sub is a stupid idea. It can/will be weaponized, to make the entire site appear line an "antisemetic" "holocaust denier" operation.

It's a message board with hundreds of different user generated subs. How can a single sub make it appear anything...??(I didn't even know it existed until yesterday btw, it's so prominent).

The right wing posts are already being sockpuppeted to discourage other left leaning people from joining.

That is irrelevant for this discussion, even if it's happening. Unless, you're suggesting a cOnSpIrAcY on the right is being fought with a managerial conspiracy.

Everything and anything related to the holocaust can be submitted into /s/holocaust.

Are you sure, massa?

The servers are in a European country. In some places there are legal penalties for antisemitism, or even questioning the narrative of concerning the holocaust.

So your earlier argument about our ability to post anything into s/holocaust was just bullshit, or this argument is bullshit conjecture...

A sub named "holohoax" is a recipe for disaster. This is a small sacrifice.

For the "greater good" of what...making Reddit 2.0, with all the SJW NPC's comfortable like lambs for slaughter in their oblivion?

Shame

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Listen bro.

I'm not going to pretend to disagree with you about much of what you're saying. In fact, I mostly agree.

Some of what I've written could be perceived as hypocritical, except I don't disagree with you on any philosophical level.

Everyone knows that numerous groups have made it one of their life goals to attack (sue, extort, kidnap, discredit, harass, sabotage, pursue, murder, etc.) anyone and everyone who is associated with open discussions related to questioning the official narrative of the "holocaust".

Certain groups have mercilessly targeted almost everyone who has allowed any oped discussion of this.

For the "greater good" of what...making Reddit 2.0, with all the SJW NPC's comfortable like lambs for slaughter in their oblivion?
I never said anything about any "greater good" or any of the rest, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.

I suppose the hypocrisy part of what I'm saying is:

If I was going to personally stick my neck out there, so that anyone and everyone could openly discuss "the holocaust" then I would be watching that shit with both eyes, and keep close tabs what was going on there.

For my own personal safety, and sense of security.

Anyone who did not take some measure of keep tabs on what was going on, would be taking a serious risk.

Conversely, this could be a "holocaust" monitoring operation, or whatever. IDK. Could be.

Who knows. There's no way for anyone to know for certain.

I've posted more about this than most, so if there is a list then I'm surely on it somewhere.

I do know that a person can say pretty much anything they want to; excluding porn, (which is an internet epidemic and can be found elsewhere).

Shame

Yeah. A little bit. I don't like it either.

Though, wouldn't he be an idiot to not cover some of his bases?
Wouldn't i also be a hypocrite for expecting him to accept additional risk? Assuming it's about risk, and I cannot say for certain.
So, am I a default hypocrite regardless of my position? IDK.

Wouldn't you do something similar if you were in that position?

I suppose I am considering the "what would I do in similar circumstances?" question; and M7 has already gone further than the others, so....

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    [–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    That is a principled position.

    He's put in the time to build the site, and he had the reputation at reddit to populate it when there was no one here.

    It would be even better if you started your own site. You could run it as you see fit.

    Let me know how to find it if/when you do.

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    I don't want the site because i wouldn't wanna chase demons off of it daily. Keep the login email and passwords and put my name on it if he's scared of the jews. Which is normal to be scared because the times have not been this bad in a loong time.

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I wouldn't want to be the MOD of that sub.

    The mod would likely be a target at some point, as well.

    Also, I don't want to be a MOD of any sub.

    I generally DGAF about most complaining, but you and /s/fred_red_beans are cool (and it wasn't really either of your complaints), so I figured I'd chime in.

    This is also Round 2 of alternative holocaust sub closures.

    if he's scared of the jews

    I get the sense he isn't afraid of "the jews" either.
    Or maybe he is.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Codoh.com read uo about it. We don't have good enough mods that would moderate a sub fulltime for this but if you applied Codoh.com's rules to holocaust revisionist saidit sub, at least 3/4 of all posters would be banned. For codoh mods ban anyone who spews ad hominems for they bring nothing to the discussion.

    "But where muh free speech!"

    That's what the ignorant would say, not realizing that they bring no facts and no argument to the discussion only fallacies and static.

    [–]fred_red_beans 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yea, maybe - I don't know...

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    EDIT. Answered the wrong comment. :-/