"Capitalism is so good that it has only existed for 0.00000011% of the Earth's life, but during that time it's threatened a mass extinction event."

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[–]Snow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Smart point of view.

But we don't have a chance to see "what happen"if this world is not controlled by capitalism.

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Yeah we do, it's called the USSR

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I know USSR known for producing durable cars...not consumer goods.

I am not stood for any political party.

[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The USSR made nuclear lakes! They're still hot today, and that's Communism. They also caused Chernobyl.

Fast forward to now, and oh, that's right, China is a communist nation, and look what they pollute.

Communism as a whole also wins on genocide.

Having said all that, I don't believe any of the commonly discussed forms of govt are anything more than creations by the families that have owned, and run almost everything for a very long time.

What rules all the commonly accepted, or acknowledged forms of govt in the world today? Feudal pieces of crap that literally think a title makes them more worthy than anyone else.

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I am not saying USSR don't ruin the environment.

Party A sucks doesn't mean Party B is better.But people always love to saying another party also suck to make themselves feel better.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But the point is you can't say "this is party A's fault" when it's both their fault.

That's what you're dong when you blame capitalism, when the culprit is capitalism+communism+other things. That's why I say technology is more to blame than any ideology

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I didn't say I agree the quote ,I posted it for fun and I found it's a little silly.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's interesting food for thought, no doubt

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, very true Snow. I believe it's all created, and I also believe that the empires of 'old', are still in control. The 'forms' they choose to control with, or by, don't matter as long as they keep getting most of the money.

I read somewhere else, you're Chinese, I don't know about in China, but suspect from what I read, that there are a lot of poor folks. Same thing in the States, and in every other country I've lived, or visited.

The astonishing thing though, abundance is everywhere, it's literally everywhere, yet it's usually a bank, or corporation that owns it.

These same people, preach to all of us globally, that we all must 'learn to do more with less, as they have more, and more'.

They tell us, the common people, globally, 'it's all our fault', everything it seems. Yet, it's those corporations, the banks, and the families behind them, that are the polluters on a mass scale.

There are solutions out there, paid for by the commoners via taxes, and yet none of these real world solutions are ever put into place.

You, and I, and all regular folks, at least by them, are viewed as slaves. I've heard common people referred to as 'pond scum'. Meaning, it's their proverbial pond, and we're just mucking it up.

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, very true Snow. I believe it's all created, and I also believe that the empires of 'old', are still in control. The 'forms' they choose to control with, or by, don't matter as long as they keep getting most of the money.

They are not control people by money, they control people by interpersonal relationship. Imagine all top bankers are your best friends.

I read somewhere else, you're Chinese, I don't know about in China, but suspect from what I read, that there are a lot of poor folks. Same thing in the States, and in every other country I've lived, or visited.

My national identity is a very complicated ...

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They are not control people by money, they control people by interpersonal relationship. Imagine all top bankers are your best friends.

Hmmm, I would really love to see an elaboration of your statement. As the only time I've had a real banker, not a 'teller', be nice to me, is when they want my money to 'invest for me'. Yet, the truth in this, is as easy as I believe a Southpark episode(adult themed cartoon), where by, one goes into the bank, deposits a $100 for investment, and as soon as he hands it to the banker, and signs, or whatever it was, the banker thanks him, and states,'and it's gone!'

Meaning the banker got his fee, but the money was unfortunately placed into a bad investment. So any elaboration for clarity would be appreciated.

As far as my national identity, it's not that complex, but I don't think I really claim any; anymore. I'm a sentient being, like all others, and I won't be ruled over as a serf. I know this world isn't it(all encompassing eternity), and even if it was, then oh well; when we leave I guess the lights would go out anyways.

On that note, a very wise man asked me what I know of a skull. I was befuddled, but over the years, it's made sense. All of us, are born, and we all die; from that skull, I guess baring racial/physiological differences, the only testament to being here, is that skull in the end; the rest is up to speculation ;)

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't believe any of the commonly discussed forms of govt are anything more than creations by the families that have owned, and run almost everything for a very long time.

I don't believe in any groups built by human in a long term.