"Nazism (national Socialism) and communism (international socialism) were but two sides of the same coin." - Margaret Thatcher

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[–]HibikiBlack 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

They had authoritarianism as something in common, but they were hardly similar.

Ironically, despite being right-wing, National Socialism had themes that were kind of close to Marx's ideals, like the working class having a certain relevance economically, while the communist regimes, despite supposedly fighting for Marx's ideals, ended with a ruling oligarchy having tyranical power over society...

I think the communist regimes were made that way to demonize collectivism and the idea of there being good authorities. To me they were something more akin to hyper-capitalist systems than what Marx described a socialist regime to be economically.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They had authoritarianism as something in common, but they were hardly similar.

Yeah I didn't mean they were similar ideologically, hence 'opposite' sides of the coin, but in terms of the power dynamics of centralizing market powers and vesting them in the government leading to authoritarianism and tyranny when this has been attempted with either right or left wing flavors

Ironically, despite being right-wing Nat socialism had themes that were kind of close to Marx's ideals

Yeah, I think both ideologies were an attempt to solve the problems they saw in capitalism, which most certainly exist. I think Marx's critiques of capitalism were more or less correct, though I think there are some issue with his prescriptions for these problems

[–]HibikiBlack 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

He had a realistic economic view of society. But that's as far as good as his views go. Marx was a lunatic all right and a self-hating Jew.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He was an obese Talmudic Jew related to the Rothschilds.