" There have been nearly 3000 Gods so far but only yours actually exists. The others are silly made up nonsense. But not yours. Yours is real. " ~ Ricky Gervais

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[–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I had the same discussion-point when I was a child. Loved talking with very religious people. And people have many different answers. And had very different interesting experiences.

Later I learned some people think that they are very special. For example sect-like groups think that god will only safe them. Because they belief in that special way. The Epstein group and the WEF think that they are chosen by god to abuse other people.

Currently I am more Buddhist minded. That means that everyone is a piece of god by him/herself. And everyone has their own path back to god. Even atheism is just a variant of that.

In Buddhism, a personalized god is usually seen as a distraction from the real god that encompasses everyone and everything. Some take it to the extreme and think that their personal life is not important too. But I noticed that the personal life does matter, a lot.

Often hard-core atheists were hardcore believers in other lives and vice-versa. The emotions and thinking-patterns usually stay, but with different variables like the environment. So your personal life en dealing with your personal problems helps you to grow in person.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Sane people don't remember before they were born.
Yet many can't admit they won't know what happens after they're dead.
But... ' ~ . magic . ~ '

Yes. I like existential Taoist Zen /s/Buddhism if you strip away the religious aspects for the philosophical non-violent non-judgmental acceptance of Universal balance.

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I call it "Buddist" without "Buddha"..
It confuses the hell out of people.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Why do all religions need the cult of personality?

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Cult of personality?
I don't know what you mean exactly, but there may be a good example with how Hinduism is a religion with both invisible gods and living gods.
People walk around that actually think that they are god, with some just wanting attention. The gurus are seen as the representative of an invisible god in the world. I think that the old Egyptians had similar concepts.

Gurus and "gods"

These gurus speak as if they are above everyone else. And you can tell that they have big egos in a way, and are very insulting to people. The believers explain it by blaming themselves. If you are insulted, it is because you have too much ego. Or if you think the guru has an ego than you are seeing your own ego.
At the same time they speak about being in unity with god. In Hinduism there are many gods, so it is confusing, but they explain it by claiming that all gods are united as one. Each "god" behaves like a sect.

You can feel the differences between these sects. In feeling there is a lot of difference, like there is different feeling for a different place. The difference between the feeling of a forest, a field or a big city. This difference is also between these sects.

Astral spaces:

For me it feels like astral spaces. Astral spaces give you a certain feeling at a place or connected with a certain group. Sometimes it feels as if you enter a church or graveyard or where they use drugs.

You can find different astral spaces in each religion. When these astral spaces are strong I sometimes get puke reflexes.

Astral space is where spirits go to after they die, so most are not going to the light. And still they reincarnate from their soul into a different life, because incarnation is not bound to the person in life.

All those spirits together form a group. This strengthens the sect and makes the god seem more powerful. Around a "guru" there are usually many spirits pretending to be him. And people in the sect do get visions and voices from these spirits, thus making them believe more in the power of this guru.

Other religions have different systems, but all have some way of collecting spirits in astral spaces.

Scientism as a sect:

And even scientism is a sect in that way, very popular for spirits. It is popular, because it denies the existence of consciousness after death. And with that belief, the spirits can pretend that they are not dead. And they can hang around the living people, because they will just think that it is their own thoughts and feelings.

Certain evil spirits can just play with skeptical people, because these people think that the spirits are their own voices. Especially when these people are away from their own feelings (and soul), can they be manipulated in thoughts. These evil spirits can give them thoughts about hurting other people for an invented reason, and they will often just agree. That is why some in the skeptical (and technocrat) community are psychopaths.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

A cult of personality, or a cult of the leader, is the result of an effort which is made to create an idealized and heroic image of a leader by a government, often through unquestioning flattery and praise. ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality

Worshiping religious leaders, political leaders, movie stars, rock stars, etc. Fuck it all - narcissists and the culture of worship. I can appreciate a great painting and respect the talent of a great painter without putting the painter on a pedestal too.

Even more disturbing than these blind faiths are the cognitive dissonance that painfully occurs when they're trapped in their cult's circular logic. For example, call someone out on their $cienti$m and they may rage, ban you from their store, or even get violent, "justified" by their beliefs embedded by "legitimate authorities". I'm assuming that's what you mean by "evil spirits" - vague nebulous words I would never use because they're loaded with so much other contemporary nonsense.

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for explaining the cult of personality. And I think people follow the darkest (often narcissist) people.
Darkness has some kind of attraction, like drugs.