" There have been nearly 3000 Gods so far but only yours actually exists. The others are silly made up nonsense. But not yours. Yours is real. " ~ Ricky Gervais

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[–]IX-Hispana 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Bad argument really. You could say that to Lemaitre about the Big Bang as well: "there have been 3000 creation myths so far but only yours actually happened. The others are all nonsense, but not yours. Yours is real". Well, yes, actually!

If you want to talk about a topic, you've got to engage the topic itself on its own merits.

I don't understand why famous atheists go for these sorts of "clever" arguments. I guess they like to feel clever. The simpler argument is much better: "I don't believe because I have no reason to". Simple. But it doesn't stroke the ego as much.

[–]EternalSunset 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Bad analogy. The Big Bang isn't a creation myth, it is a scientific theory formulated to explain the CMB. Name 1 religion that is based on scientifically observed descriptions of reality and not some fantastical story some cult leader literally made up from whole cloth and actually got people to blindly believe in.

[–]IX-Hispana 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You're right that the big bang theory has particular characteristics that warrant individual consideration. That's my point! It makes no sense to say "every other explanation for the beginning of the universe is wrong, so yours must be wrong too". If you look into it, you might find there's something different about this one. But you have to look into it to find out.

Don't get caught up in the example. Another example could be a guy who's fat and can't believe you can get jacked without steroids: "there are thousands of guys out there who claimed they were natty and then got caught. But sure, you don't touch the stuff. You're special". The general argument can be applied to all kinds of situations.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I'll be first to admit there are issues with the Big Bang Theory. And the idea that we're a simulation. But they seem more plausible than adding layers of unneeded complications to an existence that is impossible for little humans to summarily understand with a creator, petty jealous narcissist, sketchy historical accounts, loving parent, and moral judge.

Just be. Explanations be damned.

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The difference is that when new evidence is introduced and vetted, the narrative changes. Religion does not allow for that, nor does faith.