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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

Ukraine soldiers also say 'faggot' a lot, when for example they capture Russian soldiers. It's been great - while also very sad - to see the many interviews of Ukrainians in recent weeks, to see how direct and genuine they are. They never seem to care about the camera, nor do they mince their words. Lovely people. It's really heartbreaking to see their lives ruined by this unprovoked genocide. ( https://www.youtube.com/c/BBCNews )

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

Won't someone think of the children!

We're delving into dangerous territory with our condemnations of Russia. After all, our hands have more foreign blood on them. The accusations seem weak and hypocritical.

The sanctions were impotent. We tried cancelling Russia because that is what retarded liberals do. It was short sighted, and made the country look weak. Biden's ties to Ukraine and China are super suss.

I think the retards on the right should take over asap.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

I don't know why you and others at Saidit say stuff like this. It's depressing that so many here have absolutely no compassion or interest in the fate of others. It's the first time for me that I find Saidit much too depressing to visit, mainly because of the sheer meanness and stupidity. To reply to your various attachments to the background for these attrocities, you can see yourself that many are donating their money and time, personnally, nationally and otherwise all over the developed world. 40,000 refugees are finally entering the UK, for example, and hundreds of thousands of refugees in Germany and France, and people are giving space in thier homes for them, and I may do this as well. I need to try to avoid the meanness and selfishness at Saidit. It's the worst minority in the US. Regarding children, note that the Tochka-U missile from Russia today (killing 50, wounding 300) has the Russian statement, "for our children." Russia's usual criminal tactics in warfare must not go unanswered. I think few people on Saidit know or care about the videos of the attrocities, and I am not sure I've shared any of those videos with you, some of which are here: https://www.youtube.com/c/BBCNews (If you don't like the BBC, don't listen to the reporter, but do listen to the Ukrainians.)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

absolutely no compassion or interest in the fate of others

You think you have more compassion than anyone else here? I think your heart strings just got tugged on by that propaganda you like watching. Nobody likes war. Nobody wants innocent people to die. But I'm talking real politick and you're stuck on MSNBC's talking points.

If we want to help Ukranian people, hell, people everywhere, we aren't going to do it by clutching our pearls. Need to be realistic. And we have absolutely no moral superiority here. Can't spend that check twice.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

You think you have more compassion than anyone else here?

My comments are not about me or about "anyone else here", ffs. I'm also not addressing 'heart strings' or propaganda. You're misreading my comments. You're also dismissing my points by stating, well, sure "nobody wants innocent people to die". Many do indeed support war crimes by supporting the war criminals claiming that Ukraine commits genocide. And I don't watch MSNBC. I cage you a BBC link, ffs. And no helping Ukrainians is not about helping people everywhere. It about helping people in distress. That's all. And we live in wealthy countries, where we can locate an extra $ for a neighbor. It will only be temporary, if we bother to act. If it's not clear what I wrote and you need a TL:DR for my comments further above: per a recent survey - over 2/3rds of Saidit support the unprovoked destruction of Ukraine and the genocide of its people because this group of Saiditors are compassionless, cruel, selfish, stupid, cucks of fascist corporate propaganda.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

The one thing I think we agree about is agree about is people here shouldn't think Russia is their friend.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Yes - Russian government also doesn't have the support of many Russians, and protests have reduced because a protestor's 2nd or 3rd protest can land them in jail for 10 or 15 years. Some of them have noted that they will protest once or twice, get arrested, but will not protest after that, because it could result in a 10 or 15 year jail sentence.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Russian government also doesn't have the support of many Russian

Nah, that's more bad info from your news sources. The war is massively popular among Russians.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Russian news media refuse to call it a war. Russians who want to believe in the 'military intervention' call it a military interevention. it's also well known that many Russians do not want to be on record saying anything against the government. There were initially massive protests in all major cities. You cannot claim with certainty that most Russians know about a 'war' and and that they would support the atrocities if they knew of them. Even the soldiers are fighting among themselves. What you are doing is choosing to believe pro-Russian proaganda at Fox News and elsewhere, while calling raw videos of the actual events and war crimes in Ukraine propaganda.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You claim 1% of Russians oppose the war, say the war is unpopular with Russians. That isn't true.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't see any of this as relevant.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Lol

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1505483557145399296.html

There's a little bad feelings in the urban centres among rich people but that's a very small number.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

thanks for the info

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You're also dismissing my propaganda

Do you want me to apologize that your side has a credibility problem?

helping Ukrainians is not about helping people everywhere.

You're saying the Ukranians are insignificant now? All people > subset population..

And we live in wealthy countries, where we can locate an extra $ for a neighbor

We're back to living paycheck to paycheck. Check that privelege. Or lend me some money. I have some really hot shitcoins.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I am very sorry you are facing financial difficulties.

My main point is that we all have some compassion for Ukrainians and that we not support the propaganda that tries to justify war crimes. I don't think we should make any of this about ourselves. Most people where I am are merely making donations (bits of food, money, goods, whatever), which is also wonderful.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I am very sorry you are facing financial difficulties

Every regular person is facing financial difficulties. Have you looked at the price of a steak or gas, lately? If this is not apparent to you, then perhaps you need to sit your privileged ass out of these discussions.

compassion

Your side has done so much harm.

Fucking team political sports.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

You've changed the topic. My original point is: over 2/3rds of Saidit seem to support the unprovoked destruction of Ukraine and the genocide of its people

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yeah there a lot of Putin fags here. It's equally as distressing as your propaganda. Neither worse, neither better.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Dammit, the Ukrainian government is so well run the bin men were still collecting.