A free society punishes authorities for reckless speech and permits individuals to say whatever. A totalitarian society punishes individuals for unauthorized speech and permits the authorities to say whatever. Which society does the United States more resemble in the winter of 2022? -Daniel Flynn

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[–]AcceleratedWallops 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Does this Flynn guy really think individuals aren't permitted to say whatever? Has he seen the nonsense on Twitter?

For contrast, the thousands of protesters in Moscow have already been rounded up and jailed. After a single day.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm thinking the anglosphere has become more like 1984 where the poors could say and do whatever they liked and but the middle class were monitored and repressed. And, yes, it is mostly social pressure but that's often worse than government oppression. Social contact is a basic human need. We are seeing people disowning their own families over words at the moment.

Somehow the oppressive/hypocritical social order of the Victorians has escaped UK history and taken over large parts of the world.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

At the moment? Such social pressure has always existed. People still get disowned for being gay, but imagine it 30 years ago!

Imagine missing church one Sunday and the entire town talking about you behind your back. How's that for social pressure? Now let's roll back a few hundred years and you'd be getting investigated by the Inquisition or accused of witchery.

Honestly, social pressure is probably lower than it's ever been, with the recent moves toward openness and acceptance. But I don't think humanity will ever stop calling people out for being assholes.

[–]meliaprichard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

next time bring your brain to a fight of wits. https://saidit.net/s/quotes/comments/8ygt/a_free_society_punishes_authorities_for_reckless/ io games

[–]mrsuicide 0 insightful - 2 fun0 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

you were not protesting.. you were blocking an international port of entry, which borderlines on a terrorist act.

Bullshit.

You weren't there you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I was protesting in the road as is my human right. The cops shut down all the traffic, COMPLETELY. That was NOT us.

could you imagine if anytime someone gets upset about something, they go downtown and clog up the streets with trucks and cars?

Bullshit.

Your strawman ignores the last 2 years of lockdown bullshit for fake $cience.

our communities would always be in chaos.

I'd take chaotic freedom over tyrannical order any day.

you created chaos.

Ordo ab chao.

ZZZTheyZZZ manufactured the chaos so they can bring in their Great Reset.

i am not in favor of mandates, but the truckers were commiting that which borderlines on an act of war.

You're ignoring the perpetual class war that has been dialed up for a couple years.

fEd, next time bring your brain to a fight of wits.

[–]rubberbiscuit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

TLDR: This guy believes everything he hears on the nEwS

[–]mrsuicide 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

you were not protesting.. you were blocking an international port of entry, which borderlines on a terrorist act.

Bullshit.

You weren't there you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I was protesting in the road as is my human right. The cops shut down all the traffic, COMPLETELY. That was NOT us.

could you imagine if anytime someone gets upset about something, they go downtown and clog up the streets with trucks and cars?

Bullshit.

Your strawman ignores the last 2 years of lockdown bullshit for fake $cience.

our communities would always be in chaos.

I'd take chaotic freedom over tyrannical order any day.

you created chaos.

Ordo ab chao.

ZZZTheyZZZ manufactured the chaos so they can bring in their Great Reset.

i am not in favor of mandates, but the truckers were commiting that which borderlines on an act of war.

You're ignoring the perpetual class war that has been dialed up for a couple years.

fEd, next time bring your brain to a fight of wits.

[–]rubberbiscuit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

TLDR: This guy believes everything he hears on the nEwS