"There’s a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people." – Bill Adama

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Hhahaa it's BSG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv9S93yTgGc

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Lol yeah I learned that today when I looked up the quote... oh well

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I thought it was a great show, so to me it's some kind of validation of art or truth or something that you posted it and that it stirred up some good discussions. It's not like some political analyst or general has any more real authority than the writer of the show.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The show was good. However, I disagree about the legitimacy authority aspect of your argument.
Most people with real power, have earned that power by unrepentantly stepping on the backs of others.
Those who forego opportunities for greater power, because of their commitment to their principles are truly rare, and deserve unique recognition.

Smedley Butler is the only person that I can think of that meets this standard in full.
He was hand picked to lead a fascist coup to take the oval office.
He single handedly saved US democracy for about 40 years; the second coup succeeded.
Legit hero. His words carry more water.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's the legend anyways.

I used to think that too.

I wish I could recall where but within the last few months I heard that Butler was legit foil to some but was actually playing another role for the public to restore their confidence in the system. I really wish I could back this up and cite my source of skepticism. I could list a half dozen or more but I still might miss. One thing though that might be helpful, is that around that time I was learning how F.D.Roosevelt was poisoned by a Russian painter (for a lot of reasons). It might have been Webster Tarpley, Tim Kelly, or The Antidote.

I tried looking back. (I download everything before I watch/listen. It's all in "U" folders unseen until I "V" view them.)

This may or may not be the show I'm thinking of, but I gave it an extremely rare A+++ so I highly recommend it regardless.

"Tim Kelly (thkelly67) Dr Morgan Reynolds on Lincoln, FDR, War Myths and 9_11" (2016-11-01) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH_ZUTtvRhc

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm unfamiliar with most of what you've mentioned.
Another promising rabbit hole to jump into.... I'll check it out.
👍

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let me know if it comes up and if you like the episode as much as I did.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's a good point. I never watched the show. It just would've been cooler if it was from some Army General or something, haha. But it is amazing how much life is reflected in good art.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The word for positive myths that are created for television shows is, 'propaganda'. ;-)
I have to admit I do like the message of the quote. Even if I know it to be untrue.

Maybe the head of the French police force read our exchange yesterday, and decided to prove me wrong, by joining the citizenry.

Maybe he had some interesting wisdom to share. Crazier things have happened (but extremely unlikely).