Socialism is not in the least what it pretends to be ... It does not build, it destroys. For destruction is the essence of it. It produces nothing, it only consumes what the social order based on private ownership in the means of production has created. Ludwig von Mises

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

USSR was productive, during cold war USA felt the need to compete or else people would demand socialism as they saw a super power over there doing well. That is why wages were high then reaching the highest point in 60s. Since USSR fell nothing but lowered wages as USA feels no competition.

[–]EvilNick 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

What are you talking about. They had bread lines and Levi's jeans were wear off the wealthy lol. It was not doing well.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

people forget govt cheese during reagan years too

bread lines are not as bad as having no bread lines at all due to no bread

not sure what levi jeans wear off the wealthy means? Bottom line is competition is good. No competition now means we're getting screwed.

[–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

competition is capitalism tho

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

do we have capitalism now then, or is this a socialist country. In truth we never had capitalism but we had the cold war as a fake war to distract the masses just as was described in 1984. It supposedly ended in 1989 but notice how they have tried to drum it back up to use russia as a boogeyman again.

[–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

yes but whos using russia as the boogeyman? we are def not socialist, we are capitalist.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

similarly to 50 years ago, it is the media trying to convince you russia is bad

anthony sutton had pointed out USA, USSR, and nazis all had the same economic system.

[–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

its not "the media" its the left. they just happen to control a large portion of the media ATM. Nazis and the US are a very different economic system. The Nazis basically controlled all capital trade. There were VERY few free enterprises in Nazi Germany and only those that feigned extreme loyalty to the party. They could take your business or plant a party manager in at any moment though, and did frequently. USSR Im not familiar with enough, before my time but not by enough to be extremely interesting to me. I just know it was socialist and not very pleasant. It was bad enough they rose up, started dissolving and ended. Its not comparable to whats going on right now here in the states tho. Not by a long shot.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

same thing, don't try to defend the media

same systems

USSR was before your time but nazis weren't?

[–]EvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

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