Socialism is not in the least what it pretends to be ... It does not build, it destroys. For destruction is the essence of it. It produces nothing, it only consumes what the social order based on private ownership in the means of production has created. Ludwig von Mises

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

USSR was productive, during cold war USA felt the need to compete or else people would demand socialism as they saw a super power over there doing well. That is why wages were high then reaching the highest point in 60s. Since USSR fell nothing but lowered wages as USA feels no competition.

[–]Nemesis 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I'm not sure where to begin with this comment. We didn't compete with the USSR out of fear that Americans would demand a Soviet system out of envy. Their system systematically destroyed the lives of millions of people, and the day to day life of a Soviet during the height of the Cold War was in no way comparable to the quality, freedom, and choice of the average American. "doing well" is a lie, or ignorance, but either way it's wrong. As for falling wages, that's a complicated issue that everyone loves to debate, but your claim that wages have fallen due to feelings of "no competition" makes absolutely no sense. American companies do not pay their workers on the basis of competition with the Soviet Union. Companies compete with each other, and only care about foreign policy when it intersects with their industry (tariffs, trade, etc.). Correlation does not imply causation, just because the fall of the USSR and falling wages happened over the same period does not mean that one caused the other, though I would be happy to review any evidence or arguments you may have on this matter.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

yeah we did and space race is biggest example of it but also good paying jobs. Now we see the ruling elite has no need to bribe us into not revolting. Of course they were mildly worried about occupy wall st so stopped screwing us over for a few years, so economy was pretty good. Now they are getting greedy and a big crash is coming again but they have their ducks in a row with the fake pandemic and their controlled looters.

You believe in just world fallacy, probably think that the world being run by a few elite bankers is a conspiracy theory.

[–]Nemesis 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

could you explain what you mean by just world fallacy? (edit: forgot a just in my OP)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

never heard it?

[–]Nemesis 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

what you mean

What does it mean to you when you use it. I'm curious what exactly you're accusing me of.

The rest of it is just wrong, not about to waste effort on blatant memes.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

i explained it perfectly in the post, go reread

[–]Againstniggerfemales 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Ok