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[–]AsInBeer 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thomas Sowell is a first rate genius ignored by academia because they think he's an Uncle Tom.

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In white communities, a rare genious engaging in academia would be considered a "nerd", blacks have taken it one step further with this "Uncle Tom" nonsense. The bottom line is that when people can choose to listen to some wise words and prefer to stick to their smartass ways and listen to fools, they are the ones responsible for their condition.

[–]AsInBeer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. A whle part of "beng Black" is somehow supposed to be a hatred for things like being on time book learning generally, discipline and of course 2+2 =4. It's like someone is strapping a bomb onto Black people and talking them into playing the role of suicide bombers attacking their own futures.

Marxism is pure evil. I wish I could formulate a way to make it outright illegal . It's killed enough people to categorize it as a illegitimate, terrorist party. At some point, it may come to that.

[–]magnora7 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Many see reasoning as "boring", and life is supposed to be exciting according to American cultural norms.

Plus if you reason and you're proven wrong, you're just wrong, because that's how logic works. That's no fun. Especially if you're not good at it, and constantly being judged for it, like in school. You learn to not even try to be rational because you're always wrong anyway. Learned helplessness.

But if you feel something, no one can take that away from you even if it logically makes no sense. It's yours to own. And in a world where ownership is being lost by the middle and lower classes, and things are being taken often in ways that don't logically make sense to you, at least you can always have your own feelings. It's the one thing you can own that cannot be taken from you.

People relate logic to being shamed at school, and then in turn relate emotions to free-thinking and perhaps even mental freedom itself. So there is a preference for emotions over logic. Logic is seen as something a person is forced to do, where as feeling is seen as something voluntary and easy.

I think that's the cultural mindset that caused us to get to where we are, if I had to distill it down.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Your feelings aren't just your emotions though. Your feelings encompass more than just your emotions, and THAT is something they don't teach you. It's dangerous. Edit: I should say that I agree with you. But when people say "you hurt my feelings" they really just mean "you made me feel a negative emotion/an emotion I didn't want to feel" It shows that there are lots of immature people. They don't realize that their feelings and their senses are great tools, just like logic and reason. It's just easier to get lost in emotions and "feelings"

[–]yayblueberries 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But when people say "you hurt my feelings" they really just mean...

They mean, "Whatever you just did/said that I CLAIM hurt my feelings is something you should never do or say again, even if you have all right to do or say it even though it is not actually abusive or hurtful at all." It's an attempt at power and control almost every time now. It's not just immature people, it's people with a somewhat hidden agenda that they feel superior to you and need to continue to feel superior to you and control you. Immaturity is not that dangerous; the need to have power over another definitely is. They realize their feelings are great tools and use them as one to destroy other people.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You just described an immature person, and a dangerous one at that. Good for you.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Your feelings aren't just your emotions though.

Please give an example of a feeling that isn't an emotion.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Well for one thing, you can feel your thoughts, and your fingertips touching your keyboard, and the air touching your skin. Those are senses, yes, but you feel them just like you can feel your emotions. They are all "feelings" and I'm surprised you haven't recognized these things as such. Now, there can be a separate conversation concerning the meaning of these words and I'd be happy to dive into it with you. You'll find that this idea of our feelings = our emotions is relatively new.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sensory sensations don't qualify as feelings imo, they're sensory data not feelings

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I disagree, but that's fine. I personally don't see a difference between my senses and my emotions, beyond the fact that one is more concrete and can be shared with other observers (senses) and one is more fluid and changeable (emotions). Either way, you DO feel your emotions and you feel your senses. So, I don't agree with you (or society) separating these things from each other. I'm not saying that there isn't a distinction to be made, don't mistake me. Your feelings simply aren't always emotions, and your emotions aren't always properly felt. You sell yourself short if you don't heed your "feelings", and you sell yourself short if you get lost in them. They are tools at your disposal, not things to rid yourself of, or to smirk at.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fair enough, you may have a point there

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I appreciate you for hearing me out, Magnora. Especially because you run this site and respond to the user-base. I was ridiculed a lot in highschool for trying to make this distinction between feeling and emotion. It wasn't until I had a solid English teacher who taught me that a lot of writers throughout history have had similar sentiments, one of them being James Joyce. As a guy who started to go blind in his later years, he seemed to experience different emotions and sensations than he had before, making him write slightly different as a result. Another good author who talks a bit about this is JRR Tolkien, although I only saw this sentiment show up in his Letters (a compilation book of his letters published by his late son) not in his big books.

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Many see reasoning as "boring", and life is supposed to be exciting according to American cultural norms.

I think that this is generally a Western thing, though American cultural influences might have played a role here. Somehow this has intersected with the current sentiment of living to satisfy vice and nothing else and now we ended up with this materialistic society where hard facts are not accepted well and are even perceived negatively.

Little Soldiers by Lenora Chu poses some interesting questions on this.

[–]Djfjfjdbffj 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for that link. I live in China and can confirm. It's a lack of available school and testing to organise society. Everything outside of the testing system is lost. This includes any morals not required for teaching a class at scale. AKA stuff you thought was essential for a functioning society but turns out to be fluff ethics.

[–]zyxzevn 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This dumbing down goes all the way to the top.

I was so angry at the university that we still did not learn how to build arguments, use evidence, or how to do basic science etc. That is because it is not taught at public education.

My friends who were PhDs were just dumber than before, and this made me realize not to go that way. They were just copying information. And peer-review is all just a big circle-jerk. It was also weird to see that the most copied works were more valued than thorough (sometimes ground breaking) research.

Later I realized that science is not progress. It is stuck in certain dogmas, and the believers attack anyone challenging these dogmas.

[–]Robin 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Mass compulsion schooling was intended to have a dumbing down effect on kids, as John Taylor Gatto meticulously documented -- for the US -- in The Underground History Of American Education.

[–]RedditExPat69 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Left: I'm angry therefore I'm right!

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    [–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Depends where you go to school.

    Certainly in the UK to get top marks you need to think critically and make an argument.

    Often this goes too far, see - The History Boys. If you can make a good argument for obviously nonsense points you get rewarded for being an arse, contrary for the sake of attention.

    The trouble is most people in the UK media didn't do very well at school so assume everyone operated on the same level they did, teachers desperately trying to make them learn whole arguments by rote in the hope they'd get a C.

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      [–]charlie6067 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      What he said!!

      [–]charlie6067 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Even back in the 60s, I saw no courses offered on critical thinking and we now are reaping what was sown. Good point jet.

      [–]JulienMayfair 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      A considerable amount of what's taught in Education programs these days is how to teach students the "right" ways to think about topics as opposed to critical thinking. This started in the 1990s with the concept of "Safe Spaces," where students' feelings were seen as the most important thing as opposed to facts and logic. Since then, giving priority to feelings over facts has grown like a cancer throughout American education.

      The wife of a friend of mine went through an early childhood education program, and now her Facbeook posts are all about how the most important thing to teach young children is antiracism. She's been completely brainwashed.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I was the first set of seniors at the UC system for it to be mandatory everyone take an upper level English class. The new UC rule came about because of the literacy issue, an issue of learning by students and teaching well or not. Ok, we have heard about the literacy of Americans for decades and P. Bush the Younger came with STEM, "No Child Left Behind"or was that no Child's behind left alone, I cannot remember (I guess it depends on if it was catholic school). Fast forward to the latest Google email and texting choosing the words for you as you type. I love these programs suggesting the next word you are going to type. The insidiousness of helping you phrase your reality to others. Words indicate and attach to what is going on in our heads before a word appears to express that inner "whatever" to another human.

      I can see the AI computer in the background counting how many times the operator of the phone texting agrees or disagrees with the AI's choice of next word.

      [–]yishengqingwa666 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      "Trans women are women!"

      [–]hajamieli 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Pretty good description of what the average Redditor is.

      [–]PatDaddysFShack 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)


      [–]charlie6067 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      As a white man I feel naked and afraid 😁

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I don't know if this is happening everywhere, but in my home state, there aren't any writing essays required for the SAT's.

      [–]PencilPusher55 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Not gonna lie you kinda just sound like a NAZI....

      [–]sproketboy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You sound like a Nazi.