Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities - Voltaire

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from video: I Can't Breathe - Tony Heller
Woman gets chocked because she doesn't/can't wear a mask.
Followed by Covid19 stats that show that masks have absolutely no effect.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

If they get their way then wearing masks will never go away.

The airport security nonsense after the 9/11 false flag is still in use.

The masks are here to stay as long as we continue to accept it.

[–]zyxzevn[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Hey.. Flatten the curve!

[–]wizzwizz4 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

A disease that's spread via, amongst other things, droplets of spittle… and some numbers on a chart in a YouTube video have convinced you that a face covering has “absolutely no effect”‽

Don't believe what you hear. Do the experiment yourself. Put a hand in front of your mouth and say "Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers”. (Perhaps drink some water first, to make it easier to tell – but that's not necessary.) Move your hand further away and closer. Now: would a mask help with that?

I'm happy about masks being a thing, because it means it's socially acceptable for me to protect myself against mass surveillance now. That used to get you strange looks and increased attention; now, people just think "oh, eccentric" and move on.

[–]zyxzevn[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A disease that's spread via, amongst other things, droplets of spittle… and some numbers on a chart in a YouTube video have convinced you that a face covering has “absolutely no effect”‽

It is not about the virus that kill mainly people close to death,
and for which there is a clear cure that is being severely censored.

It is not about wearing a mask, that clearly makes no sense as you can see in the statistics,
and can see in the scientific reports that are on /s/coronavirus

It is not about the herd immunity that is now in many places, which makes the mask like wearing a condom at a baby shower.

It is not about the silent carrier myth. The debunked idea that people with no symptoms can spread the disease.

It is about the police over-violently attacking innocent and vulnerable people that have committed no crime at all.

it's socially acceptable for me to protect myself against mass surveillance now

What can we do with it now?
Can we change the system in some way?

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is about the police over-violently attacking innocent and vulnerable people that have committed no crime at all.

Oh. Well, that I agree is bad. A tip, though: criticise it directly. Going by proxy means people can shut down the arguments by attacking the (flimsy) proxies.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The shitbag vaccine shill is back.

Here's an experiment for you.

Ask any smoker to blow smoke through their N95 mask. It easily goes right through. Aerosolized solids.

Of course, this presupposes a new superbug flu exists.

It's a hoax.

[–]dtyrdytdytfdytfytfcy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i knew it was a hoax as soon as they announced it.. they knew that it originated in some market where they sell bats or whatever.. omg..

the bigger the lie, the easier they will swallow it.

[–]Ned 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For every contrarian article posted online there are dozens of others which support using preventative measures. Beware when people use phrases like, "absolutely" followed by what they are trying to sell you.

It's ridiculous, some will claim their freedoms are oppressed. Ignoring there are mass protests going on and people aren't wearing masks and it's LEGAL. Masks are just another thing to cry about in 2020.

That smoke through the mask gif people use as "proof" just shows how the vapor is dispersed near the wearer. Which is the point for social distancing.

I'm with you on the mass surveillance thing.

[–]Fitter_Happier 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm happy about masks being a thing, because it means it's socially acceptable for me to protect myself against mass surveillance now.

Something to ponder. Don't forget those goggles!

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

she can wear a mask just doesn't want to

[–]Ned 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The irony of posting that while being intellectually dishonest. We live in a time when its more dangerous to wear PPE than not during an outbreak of a novel virus. Cooperating with your community and the greater good is viewed as slavery and ignorance. Hopefully, the virus dies out on its own and through the millions of people putting forth an effort to stop it.

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Non 95 masks don't work. Stop the hysteria from these science deniers.

[–]Ned 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Oh hey strawman, glad you could make it.

[–]Zahn 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Cooperating with your community and the greater good is viewed as slavery

Over a virus that is no worse, on average, than the flu. You are denied freedom of movement, freedom of assembly, forced to wear a item of clothing, your right to privacy is intruded on, in some cases your right to free speech, you lose your business, your job, and are forced to marginally subsist on uncertain welfare from the gov. Only to look forward to years of a rocky economic road which will seriously diminish your way of life, which ultimately more seriously negatively affects the greater good of everybody.

and ignorance.

True ignorance is denying experiential and scientific data surrounding the topic.

Hopefully, the virus dies out on its own and through the millions of people putting forth an effort to stop it.

The only way millions of people are going to "stop it", is by contracting it, having the sniffles for a couple of weeks and then being done with it.

https://andmagazine.com/talk/2020/08/11/sweden-lockdown-facts-fauci-wont-tell-you/

Science Denier

[–]Ned 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well, it is not the flu. Virologists have decades of studies into influenza, Covid-19 is a novel virus. https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/26/from-nose-to-toe-covid19-virus-attacks-like-no-other-respiratory-infection/

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-long-term-symptoms-complications-covid-.html

Science Denier, huh? https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/how-does-coronavirus-kill-clinicians-trace-ferocious-rampage-through-body-brain-toes

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I clearly told you that it's not a flu. You are promoting hysteria. Since you now realize it's primarily spread through biovapor, you are now changing tact and embracing the fear purveyor's speculation of mysterious long term damage.......in the small fraction of the population that are susceptible to it. Really cannot know if that is true until years down the road, and hence not applicable to the current conversation.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Losing a leg is long-term damage. You can know that five minutes after it happens; you don't need to wait 50 years to make sure the leg won't grow back before you conclude "maybe ACME anvils do cause long-term damage".

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Over a virus that is no worse, on average, than the flu.

An average skewed by the fact that those most at risk are often completely isolated from all human contact. You're comparing bad cases of COVID-19 in the very healthiest to bad cases of flu in the whole population. Calling that "on average" is disingenuous. (And, by the way, that's a really old stat – I'm pretty sure that hasn't been the case for five months now. COVID-19 isn't the worst disease on the planet when compared to stuff like Ebola, but it's virulent and a darn sight worse than anything we had in developed countries this time last year.)

forced to wear a item of clothing

I don't know of anywhere where this is legally mandated.

your right to privacy is intruded on

How? I'm a techie; the contract tracing protocols track you less than the telephony network.

Only to look forward to years of a rocky economic road which will seriously diminish your way of life,

Most countries have managed to avoid this. Blame your government, and maybe spend half an hour actually working towards fixing the problem – vote, if your voting system's effective; otherwise, write a letter to a politician, or perhaps find a competent activist and throw some money at them.

True ignorance is denying experiential and scientific data surrounding the topic.

Yeah… Kind of sucks to live in one of the countries where your government's doing this. But at least it's better than the US.

The only way millions of people are going to "stop it", is by contracting it, having the sniffles for a couple of weeks and then being done with it.

"The sniffles" is, generously, an accurate assessment of the median reaction. But "the median reaction is sniffles" is consistent with "40% of people straight up die"; going by the median response is a terrible way to make these decisions.

Your healthcare system can't cope with everybody getting COVID-19 at once, if only 1% of people require hospitalisation to survive. Nowhere's can. (And iirc, it's higher than 1% even with those most at risk self-isolating.)

[–]Zahn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Despite your hysterics it really is just a "flu". Screencap this and be prepared to eat all of your words with a generous helping of salt.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can do better than a screencap. Willing to make a “bet” on PredictionBook? (No money; just a permanent record that people can bring up at a later date and laugh at you about.)

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Said every neocon secretly for his own agenda.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't believe he said that...

/s

[–]zyxzevn[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are correct, he wrote in French