"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." -Winston Churchill

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Equating socialism with marxist, communist ideologies is COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA. That cigar-sucking war pig Churchill was feeding you COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA which is unsurprising, given that he chose to side with communism over what would free the world of that extremely evil system.

And look, you are quoting him repeating COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA thinking it makes you anti-communist. Oh, the irony is too much.

[–]horatioherbert 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

War-pig? Were those Russian planes over London? Fool

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Perhaps you should study ACTUAL history instead of just the propaganda about the past.

[–]horatioherbert 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

If your ACTUAL history books tell you Russia declared war against UK and flew bombing raids over Coventry you can keep it because you are the real propagandist. Are you a socialist, too?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I am definitely a socialist. Communism is abhorrent and anti-human. I stand ABSOLUTELY against it.

[–]horatioherbert 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Socialism in the economy is flawed because it assumes the the person who currently operates the forklift can also run the company successfully . People are not the same

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

But that's not socialism, that's COMMUNISM. You are confused. And it's not surprising, given the century-long PsyOp to change the meaning of the word socialism in order to brainwash people into conflating socialism with communism.

Literally, the first expression of any kind of relationship between socialism and communism was Karl Marx, a communist. Your definition of socialism is COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA. Before Marx, the leading socialists were anarchists and libertarians. How much more opposed to communism can anybody be, than anarchists and libertarians? It's pretty much the other end of the spectrum.

And yet, here we are, with a big part of the English-speaking population subject to a language-operated lobotomy preventing them from thinking the full spectrum of socioeconomic thought.

I. Definition Socialism is an economic philosophy based on the need for regulations on capitalism. Unchecked capitalism, most economists agree, can create serious problems in the long term, since short-term personal profit does not motivate companies to take care of infrastructure, the environment, or their workers. Socialists emphasize this fact and argue that only the government can solve the problems created by capitalism. Other economic philosophies generally acknowledge the problem, but advocate other solutions to it, while only a few extremists deny that there is any problem with absolute capitalism.

Although many people think that socialism and capitalism are completely incompatible systems, the fact is that most developed nations operate on a combination of both. For example, nearly every major city in the developed world has some system of government-run public transportation, such as bus lines or a subway. There are also laws against child labor, unsafe workplaces, and reckless pollution, and government programs that help provide education, food, and healthcare to the poor. All of these are socialist ideas that exist in relative harmony with capitalist economies. Capitalism vs. socialism is a question of balance, not an “either/or” question.

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[–]horatioherbert 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Good government can indeed curtail abuses of people by other people but you assume members of government are good, not corrupt and sordid who will do the same as ‘unchecked capitalism.’ Now you a socialist answer this: how is the price of rice determined in a Socialist economy? Some government stooge sitting in an office who knows nothing of rice

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

There is no such thing as a "socialist economy". Where the hell are you getting these delirious ideas? As I wrote above, in the world we have CAPITALIST and we have COMMUNIST economies. Personally, I can't see anything even remotely good about the communist system, so it is fair to say I am very pro-capitalism. I am also very pro-socialism. They aren't mutually exclusive, THEY WORK HAND IN HAND.

If you know nothing about a topic, please don't pick arguments with people who know everything about the topic. It gets REALLY BORING REALLY QUICKLY.

On to the matter of government: Americans are brainwashed to think their crony oligarchy is the very definition of true democracy. It is of course more delirium. True democracy was in Lybia before its "liberation" by the murderers in the US military machine. True democracy still exists in Switzerland.

Search on saidit for "direct democracy" and "switzerland" and you'll find videos explaining how the Swiss people keep their politicians on very short leashes, how said politicians, or rather PUBLIC SERVANTS which is what they should be, are HELD ACCOUNTABLE for what happens on their watch, and how THE PEOPLE can vote in or revoke any proposed or existing bill / law / regulation / executive order / decree / whatever else put out by governments.

[–]horatioherbert 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Surprise! There are more than two types of economies that exist in the world you ignorant socialist. Continue your watch from your room with the windows closed and shades drawn. You are so lost you cannot even comment or reply to direct questions only continue this drivel. You just want to pick and choose what you like without benefit of discussion or debate about evidence and facts. If "There is no such thing as a 'socialist economy' what are you carrying on about? What can be accurately described as Socialist? If not an economy then what?