"It’s easy to be a communist in a free country. But try being free in a communist country." - Aubrey Huff

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[–]igorness 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Except that Communism died in the 80s and in fact there has never been a textbook Communism country on the planet as all the ruling classes were corrupt and used money. Aubrey should really catch up.

[–]ctvzbuxr 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

It is only real communism if it works, which is why real communism has never been tried.

[–]igorness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Correct. Authoritarian socialist/capitalist hybrids at best.

[–]ctvzbuxr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't think that's what I said. What I said is communism doesn't work. In my opinion, the degree to which a society implements socialist policies is the degree to which it will harm itself. The degree to which property rights are enforced, contracts are upheld and freedom of the individual is implemented is the degree to which a society will prosper.

[–]igorness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That part of Socialism will never happen in the US where it's more about basic human needs issues like health care.

[–]ctvzbuxr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How is (government) health care funded? Taxation. Taxation is a violation of property rights. You are threatening to put people in jail or kill them if they resist, when they don't pay money that they own and have not signed over voluntarily, to fund other people's health care.
There is no such a thing as "that kind of socialism". Every socialist policy has the threat of a gun behind it, and the only reason why we don't see bloodshed is because people usually do not resist, which they would have every right to do.

[–]igorness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You are so wrong and incorrect, it's ridiculous.

[–]ctvzbuxr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Go on.

[–]whistlepig 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Power corrupts. If you don't ignore nature, then many of these were (and are) true Communist countries. As close as humanly possible, at least.

[–]igorness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not even close. Communism requires the end of money which all it's ruling classes gleefully used corruptly. At best then and now, they'll all all authoritarian socialist/capitalist hybrids.

[–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That just isn't realistic. It is human (and I would argue animal) nature for people to exchange. No matter how much you complain about it, people do it anyways. Including you. Obviously of course. Since exchange is something people have to do if they are going to work together communally.