Howard Zinn On The Supreme Court

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[–]fred_red_beans 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Although, today's protests and demonstrations are organized by those who should be boycotted (MSM) and violate the law in the name of the people. These protests are carried out by those who have been misled and are generally not critical thinkers or willing to listen to or contemplate an alternative point of view. IMHO

I agree changes should be made, but TPTB have caught on to all the counter goings on and have the resources to infiltrate and propel any side to extremism. Look at what happened to Reddit.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I totally agree with what you're saying. But the response must not be to give up, it must be to make the crowds wiser so that when a moment comes that causes mass outrage, the people will be wise to these infiltrations. To me this seems like the only way forward. It's not as if protests have been rendered useless, but they would definitely like us to think that.

[–]fred_red_beans 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I see many of today's protests as really polarizing people against each other instead of educating others on a different point of view or just speaking truth to power.

I don't think it's wrong to sympathize or empathize with, for example, a woman who may have been assaulted, but those emotions should not override the finding of facts or truth. What is happening, or really has happened for a long time, is that people are prodded with something that evokes in them an emotional response and then given a bad guy or quick fix solution. There is no evidence that Russian interference had anything to do US elections. The Trump campaign spent 750 million and the Clinton campaign spent one billion, and we're to believe that 100K in facebook ads did it? It's ludicrous. It's talking heads sitting there telling an audience that Russia is the bad guy and that since 17 agencies say it it is true, it is so. They are saying believe the authority and anything outside of that narrative is a conspiracy theory, and you wouldn't want to be one of those conspiracy theorists. The label "conspiracy theorist" in my mind is just as derogatory as any racial label that could be used, but I digress.

No, you're right it is not the correct response to give up. Although, I don't know that today's protests are really very productive. Sometimes they are. I find some of what Ray McGovern does as enlightening, but I did not think that Jill Stein getting arrested while trying to join the presidential debate as doing anything really. Many large protests are largely ignored. I see most on today's left as over emotional and not seeking, and many not even listening, to diverse points of view or relevant information. This is a problem.

Ultimately it is up to the individual to think critically, to seek diverse opinions and statement of facts/events (even ones they may disagree with), to temper emotion with understanding and wisdom, and to claim their own sovereignty.

I applaud your efforts here with Saidit to provide a forum that allows diverse information and debate. Reddit has become toxic and Voat is very negative. I hope that people are able to come here and have fair discorse, share things they know, and learn something new. That's mainly why I come, just to read the information that is outside the main stream to help form my understanding of the world.

Thank you.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with your assessment of almost everything. I think the pendulum is due to start swinging back the other direction.

I'm glad you see the value in saidit. We're glad to have someone thoughtful like you here!

[–]allie 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Howard Zinn: Don’t Despair about the Supreme Court