"The two big mistakes were: the belief in a sky god -- that there's a man in the sky with 10 things he doesn't want you to do and you'll burn for a long time if you do them -- and private property, which I think is at the core of our failure as a species." George Carlin

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[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

We're so cruel. and careless.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Things are better for the entire human race than they've been ever in human history. Yes, even the homeless.

Wait, I've got something for you to read. It's about a group of people just like you, who went and formed a society in which they lived the values that you preach. They welcomed anyone who needed a home, and didn't handle money for years at a time. It's totally worth the read. http://pastebin.com/F0WGGewg

[–]uiop 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's a really interesting article, thanks for sharing. I'm confused though, did they just accept and care for everybody who wanted a home, without making them contribute in any way? That's how it sounds, but it seems like a pretty obvious design flaw. It's one thing for society at large to support the few people who legitimately can't hold a job, but supporting anyone who asks without question is just begging to be taken advantage of.

As far as your post, though... Yes, things are better for humanity than they've ever been, but that doesn't mean humans aren't cruel (on the other hand, we're more or less the only species with a sense of morality in the first place, but that's beside the point). And it sounds like the Farm failed because it didn't account for the resources it would take to support all those people, not because it tried to support them at all. Theoretically the money should come from the people who have way more than they need, not the people who can only afford noodles and oranges on Christmas.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The point is that they tried to take care of the world before they took care of themselves.

We can't take care of everyone. Take care of those we know, at home. That's the lesson of the socialist collective.