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[–]Tiwaking 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Hmmm...."you're either with us, or against us". Not a good policy to take.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27re_either_with_us,_or_against_us

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think these two quotes are the same. Ostensibly every team is against injustice.

[–]RatherSmallPotato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But injustice is so subjective that it's meaningless.

[–]mikipika 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

During WW II which oppressor did Switzerland side with?

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They were neutral but certain bankers and families in Switzerland did fund National socialism and German industry, which wasn't unfounded when Hitler and his economists decided to privatize banks for a rearmament program.

There is a lie today that Hitler was funded extensively by either the warburgs, Rotschilds, the latter a lie, and big industrialists. The problem is the funding was nowhere close to the opposition groups to NSDAP and the marxist groups. The internationalists detested Hitler and National Socialism. And it goes without saying that Hitler became who he was because of the Treaty of Versailles. If that hadn't been imposed Natioal Socialism would not have risen to such great heights.

In the Pool's book on Hitler's funding as well as a french banned book in America, it illistrates that NSDAP was largel funded by dues, and membership payments as well as by poor and middle class Germans.

[–]mikipika 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for the info. History is written by the victors, eh? I had the opportunity to read some letters from that time (translated) from families in Germany to their relatives in the US. They talked about how bad things were, like no water or bread. Then Hitler can along and things got better. It was strange to read how they praised him.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean they held quite a bit of nazi gold... but I see your point

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They did. I don't doubt that. As for Hitler, and National Socialism, if he had died prior to the war, he would have been regarded as one of the greatest German leaders in history. His anti-Semitism would have been a lull in retrospect to the cause of a sense of pride in middle class Germany, accompanied with one of, if not the greatest restorations in a countries economy. He effectively kicked out the utter torment of foreign speculation, and based the mark on a utilitarian principle. The mainstream today completely ignores everything Hitler might have done or disregards him as simply insane. This alone is worrisome, considering there were legitimate and real reasons for why Hitler came to power and what he wanted Germany and the economy to entail. There are still some great objective books on the Reich, Hitler, and the German economy but have been unfortunately censored by Amazon, Barnes and Noble and all the big American publishers. One does not have to worship or enthrone another Hitler to observe, that much of what we read about him today and Germany are lies and half-truths. If anything, the National socialist economy alone, with its utilitarian principles, should be extensively looked at.