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[–]SoCo 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Wow, what a shameful and deceptive abuse of a terrible event.

They tried to just list bad things, talk about Trump menacingly, then talk about bad things again. Yet, it made no sense how those different topics were connected.

Is Salon really continuing a 40 year old dog whistle, pretending Regan gave a speech there because of the racial attack nearly 20 years before that?

The FBI made the child molestation accusations, having been watching them, about it and guns before the newspaper article. They then infiltrated with undercover officers and really were there to stop assault riffles as they thought they were converting AR-15's to. The FBI ignored that they had a legal gun business and previous cooperation with law enforcement.

It all happened under Bill Clinton and Republicans used that against him, although the public probably didn't need much push. There was quite a political flip to Republican afterwards. The whole disaster was lead by Democrats, newbie Janet Reno gave the go command and many hard to ignore accusations later suggested the first lady pressured US AG Webb Hubbell to push Janet into doing so. The Democrats lambasted any criticism as GOP extremists conspiracy theories for a decade afterwards, "Wakophiles", or something.

[–]UbiquitousCultOfSelf 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Was it just a terrible event? Or was there maliciousness on behalf of the government?
By similar logic, we could say that IRS agents, FDA bureaucrats and the like are trying to ensure public safety when they enforce laws against the sale of unpasturized milk. Yet, in most cases, as was the case with Al Capone and the likes, the gov't rarely goes after a foe on equal footing under the exactitude of the law. Rather, they invent terms like "racketeering" and mail fraud and any number of other peanuts jay-walking type charges to file "trumped up" charges in order to litigate the real issue they don't like.
Here, with Waco, it seems like they didn't like separatists with a standing militia. At least, that's the popular understanding.
The rest of the charges may or may not have been present. If they weren't present, if they didn't steal children from off the streets and force marriages, if they didn't stockpile dynamite to take on Capital Hill, then maybe the government was terrified and acted criminally.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ensure public safety when they enforce laws against the sale of unpasturized milk

lol. there are many who would prefer not to drink pasturized milk.. because it is better for you

they aren't "saving you' from something, they are taking something from you

and in traditional style, have convince you, it is better this way

lol

flouride they put in your water comes from fertilizer plants' chimneys.. it is biowaste they can't just throw away...

so put it in our water.