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[–]jacques1102 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

This isn't marxism, this is black nationalism/fascism.Marxism would be blaming the rich for slavery.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Post-marxism. They realised the working classes liked being lifted out of poverty by capitalism so replaced them in marxist discourse with identity groups.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes it's just replacing the class based oppression dynamic with a group based one instead.

It's retarded of course. The class based oppression dynamic is one that makes some degree of sense, especially if we are talking about slavery because that can be described as a form of oppression far easier than employment can.

Of course the problem with slavery wasn't the fact that black people were slaves, it was the fact that you were owning people. Doesn't matter who the people were.

Once you make it a racial identity issue it takes the focus away from slavery being bad and just replaces it with this racial antagonistic relationship that can't really describe the realities of the economic hardship disparities that fall along racial lines. White people oppressed black people? But what about the majority of poor white farmers who owned no slaves? What about the rich black landowners who owned plantations with black slaves?

The racialist essentialist mindset doesn't really describe anything. It just is an excuse for further dividing the working class into easily controlled groups that can be pitted against each other rather than having them collectively exert pressure on the ruling class to improve their working conditions and the expense of ruling class profits.

The truly insidious nature of this approach is that it doesn't condemn slavery either, it turns into a weird black purity movement, it vindicates reverse oppression in the form of reparations, but it's entirely unachievable as a political ideology, and frankly there's a hilariously ironic embracing of the stereotypes typically thrown at black people by racists. "I want reparations because I'm black" is not functionally different than "I want free shit". How is that not an total embrace of the lazy nigger stereotype?

[–]Skankhunter42 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

BITCH NUGGETS! ASS PISS PUSSY! MUH TURRETS! PROUD NIGGERS, PRIDE IS A DEADLY SIN! DISNEY IS BRAINWASHING PEOPLE WITH THIS BULLSHIT!

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The illuminate causally mentioned but for some reason this set of conspiracy theories is OK.

[–]clownworlddropout 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

They bitch about Lincoln now? Fucking Lincoln wasn't "anti-racist" enough? I can't keep up with their nonsense.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Lincoln's crime was that he was white. Even if he did free the slaves.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

He didn't free the slaves enough though.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

He freed all the slaves in the USA. But not the Middle East or Africa.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ah but you see he couldn't free the slaves because the slaves had to free themselves. That's what the video says anyway.

To which is I say, slave, reparate thyself.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

BWAHAHAHAHAHH! FREE THEMSELVES?!?!?!?

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It really is just white supremacy repackaged in a way to appeal to the modern idiot.

"White people are superior to black people."

Bad.

"White people have always oppressed black people".

Good. But what you're really saying is that white people are more powerful than black people no? Like they have some sort of power from witness. A white power if you will?

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't ask me I'm a Woodpecker. I'm free and I can fly and peck holes in wood looking for insects.

Notice the immigrants from Africa are nicer, kinder, smarter, and easier to live with than Native African-Americans that live and grew up in the USA. CRT is to blame. Nobody holds them back, but liberal teachers tell them white privilege keeps them down.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Those characters seem really angry and I doubt children will tolerate more than about three minutes of this.

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This shit is always made by adults to preach at kids. Kids won't listen to it. They'll just fuck round on TikTok or whatever.

[–]WoodyWoodPecker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even Bill Cosby had a better cartoon with Fat Albert. https://youtu.be/jrsOFi6xLms

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

If someone disagrees with the statement that "black peoples' lives don't matter" are they a marxist in your view

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

BLM is an org with specific aims and well known leaders. You know this.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Okay but there was no mention of an organisation with specific aims and well known leaders in the article or embedded tweets. You know this. In fact it seems like what really bothered OP and the original author was nothing to do with a given organisation with specific aims and well known leaders - OP and the original author found a reference to Marxism (the political philosophy of Karl Marx) in a children's cartoon, and I would like to know, did they see it in the suggestion that black peoples' lives do matter? Or elsewhere?

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

If there was no mention of BLM then you wouldn't have brought it up.

Please learn to keep track of your own bullshit, the rest of us are busy people.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sorry, to be clear, you're pointing out that if OP hadn't incorrectly imagined that this children's cartoon involves an org with specific aims and well known leaders.....you're pointing out that if OP hadn't incorrectly imagined this, then I wouldn't have brought it up?

Well, yes, you're correct, that if OP hadn't mentioned it then I wouldn't have brought it up - because then it would be me incorrectly imagining it, rather than OP.

Please learn to keep track of your own bullshit

I am simply asking OP - it's nothing at all to do with you, really, so I dont know why you're involving yourself.

OP, where in this article or the embedded tweets will I find the political philosophy of Karl Marx? Will I find it within the parts which imply that peoples' lives don't not matter? Is that where I should be looking, to find the Marxism here?

Simple question and absolutely nothing to do with you, I don't know why you felt you had to leap to OP's defense here?

the rest of us are busy people.

Don't let me keep you, then, asshole

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You tried to make a dumb teenage level argument and got called out. Don't get pissy now.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You haven't called out anything. I thought you were really busy? What do you think you called out here? OP believes he saw some Marxism, I'd like to know where, and instead of helping you're just sticking your nose in. Your input has been totally useless. Maybe instead of challenging me over nothing, you should also be asking OP where he saw Marxism in this children's cartoon which doesn't say that black peoples' lives are without meaning

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Basically everyone thinks black lives matter, in the sense that people's lives matter even if they are black. Very few overt racists left in the world. Most are probably in this thread.

Black Lives Matter as a slogan/ movement is a grift designed to sell T shirts and divert the working class from directing their anger towards the ruling class and towards other members of the working class.

Needlessly complicates and obfuscates a real issue, that being inner city violence and police brutality, with a vague social concept, racism, and makes it difficult to deal with the initial problem.

White kids get shot by white cops, nobody cares, black kids shot by black cops. Story disappears quickly as nobody jumps on the racism bandwagon. White cop kills black kid. Media circus for years. Profiteering off of urban violence. Absolutely disgusting.

There's loads of cases where the police just go all out ham with over use of force and kill people. There's other cases where it's justified, like when people are shooting at the cops. Perhaps we all just need to step back and consider how we deal with this violence issue?

I think the easiest solution to that is to pay cops more. A lot more. It's a fucking dangerous job, nobody is gonna want to do it if they've got better options available with how it pays now, except for those people that get off on having authority.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's an uninteresting answer and you totally missed the point. This is about a cartoon. The cartoon didn't say that black peoples' lives are without meaning.....is it that absence which op is calling marxism? Why is OP talking about Marxism or the BLM movement in response to this cartoon? Is it because he's a piece of shit, do you think?

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I think you should give me money because slavery happened. Give me $100 right now or else you are a racist.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Are you recounted something that happened in the Disney cartoon?

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I still don't see my $100 dollars. Why are you such a slave driver? Do you want to be the next Hitler? Give me $100 or else you are a Nazi.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So, are you actually describing something that you think is happening here? What are you referring to and what's the relevance to this article? Can you try and use your words, please?

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes here's the situation.

You are a racist Nazi. Because I still don't see my $100.