The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)

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[–]Drewski[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

I have posted this multiple times before, and I will continue to do so because I believe it is crucially important and more relevant now than ever.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I appreciate it, but it is very dense material. If someone has the time to pick out specific details and chew them up and put them into small, bite size info graphics for the general public to consume then it would reach far more people.

Not that it is your fault, but I think >80% of people are too dumb to make use of material in this formatt.

Just putting it out there in case it might motivate someone to do that.

[–]Drewski[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I respectfully disagree, I think it's rather straightforward and you're severely underestimating people's intelligence. If they're really unable to understand it, I don't see how breaking it down into an infographic would make them more aware of the techniques being used against them.

[–]chottohen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

You can never post it too often. I just read it again. I keep a list of suspects on saidit but they change their alters at any time.

[–]Alienhunter 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

But the question is, is the suspicion of feds, in and of itself not a psyop?

I see no reason why you'd need be concerned with the random feds. It's a public forum. It's a private as anywhere in public. You are broadcasting to anyone who wants to see it. Feds included.

If anything suspicious attitudes and witch hunts will do more than anything to deteriorate forum quality and frankly if the feds were to want to shut down the discussion for whatever reason, they need merely foster infighting and sit back and let the dynamics play themselves out.

Disruptive and otherwise asshole users are more likely than not mentally ill much like the homeless man screaming obscenities. In the same way your best bet to deal with them is to simply ignore them. Which is very easy to do online.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Being aware of propagandists keeps you from becoming dissalusioned by them pretending to be stupid, or playing their word games. It is sometimes usefull to call them out so others who are casually reading and might not catch the propaganda techniques being used can be tipped off and take a closer look.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's good to know argument and persuasion techniques yes. But the internet is also a bit too quick to call those who they disagree with trolls.

Or perhaps that was the feds all alone. Lol.

[–]Drewski[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Right, I'm not suggesting calling everyone a fed. I do think it is important to be aware of the methods that are used to foment discord and suppress information. Often times the best solution is to ignore a disruptive user, but in some circumstances it can be more beneficial to provide a good counter argument.

[–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Counter arguments work for arguments. I think counter arguments are great but if some troll is going to drag you into a stupid argument it's better to bow out.

[–]chottohen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good points all around. The thing is that I am not really so concerned about spooks but it gives me something to do, speculating on who might be one. Mentally ill people on saidit?! No, but a few borderline personality disorders now and then. 😬🙃 I could be wrong though and probably am. Cheers.

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There are recently (it really seems like new year new spooks) a lot more, and distinclty different bad actors around. It used to be just sox, with his multiple alts.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Probably anyone who openly disagrees with you works for the federal government. Why else? I mean you always feel so incredibly correct, the only reason someone would go against your feelings is if they're being maliciously paid to.

Actually you wouldn't believe some of the disbelief my posts have garnered on saidit. So many feds out here

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sure sox, you are just honestly differing in opinion and never argue disingenuously.

[–]BISH 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When did it lose its "gentleman's" status?

[–]DefinitelyNotAnAgent 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This shit cracks me up...

[–]panel30 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

thank you for posting this. I've read stuff like this before but not very carefully. now some people who looked like just normal participants don't, aah.